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Ilsa Bartlett Institute for Rewiring the System http://ilsabartlett.wordpress.com http://www.google.com/profiles/ilsa.bartlett www.hotlux.com/angel <http://www.hotlux.com/angel.htm> "Don't ever get so big or important that you can not hear and listen to every other person." -John Coltrane On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 5:53 PM, John Newman <j...@synfin.org> wrote: > > > > > > On January 2, 2018 6:07:37 AM EST, Ben Mezger <s...@seds.nl> wrote: > >I don't think you actually understood my point (nor did I actually > >specify > >it precisely). > > > >I did read __some__ of Jame's messages and I think it's also damn > >pathetic > >too. I am not taking any sides here, I just think you are both wrong > > James is way way more wrong, by virtue of being total scum. > > Ack, I just wasted more list bandwidth discussing this shiT > stain... wtf is wrong with me !? > > >about > >personally attacking each other (or it seems like so at least) on a > >public > >email list on hacker culture. > >Wether you take it as a humiliation or not, that's up to you. You > >should > >take it as an advice that even if someone lowers their level, you > >should > >not do the same and perhaps sometimes is better to give a time before > >replying. > > > >Do whatever is healthier for you. > > > > > >On 2 January 2018 at 11:49, Cecilia Tanaka <cecilia.tan...@gmail.com> > >wrote: > > > >> On Jan 2, 2018 02:08, "Shawn K. Quinn" <skqu...@rushpost.com> wrote: > >> > >> On 01/01/2018 02:45 PM, Ben Mezger wrote: > >> > since when did cpunk got so personal specially on a public list? > >and > >> > since when has cpunks become a sexual diary? > >> > >> Personally, I would rather read flagrant personal attacks and > >outright > >> pornography from Cecilia than even one-tenth of the flagrant racist > >> (including white supremacist), anti-semitic, homophobic, and > >dishonest > >> spam that eminates from the like of those who I now call #$%& and > >#$%&#$ > >> %&#$%&#$. > >> > >> > >> Shawn, > >> > >> I thank you sincerely, but please let this topic die forever. Ben > >did > >> probably not read James' messages and his personal attacks to me or > >> purposely ignored them. He criticized only my answers and, well, his > >> aggressive public reaction was a really precious lesson to me. > >> > >> **I swear I will never try to help another unknown and foreign > >runaway > >> hacker, depressed enough for considering killing himself, sincerely > >> offering my home and my personal contacts to give him some support.** > >> > >> He could simply give me a sincere heads up in private about my > >messages, > >> honestly criticizing them and their content, when, only some weeks > >ago, > >> contacted me in private asking about me. I was so, really so happy > >for > >> knowing his personal storm was apparently finished and he was doing > >> good... I was very stupid. > >> > >> Well, not my problem anymore. He knows very well how much I do hate > >false > >> and hypocrite persons and I will never trust him again. Really sorry > >for > >> wasting my time last year, reading his "pathetic" private messages > >asking > >> for help and answering to them when he was feeling deeply sad and > >lost. > >> > >> I hate the sensation of being humiliated in public for someone that I > >used > >> to trust, someone who used to be my friend, but it is evidently > >**not** a > >> problem for him, so he will not waste his time reading this message > >and > >> giving it an answer. Anyway, he died for me yesterday and I think a > >> supposed "badass hacker" knows very well how to create messages > >filters. > >> > >> Wish you all a lovely day. I will lurk for some time because it will > >> certainly be much healthier for me. > >> > >> ** I am feeling really sick about hypocrite disgusting people who > >think > >> it's OK to post White Supremacist and Nazi content, but it's really > >> shocking to mention sex. It's f_cking creepy and unfair because > >James' > >> messages mentioning **MY** supposed sexual life can be freely posted, > >but > >> if I mention **HIS** sexual life, I am annoying the CP list and > >destroying > >> it. Aff, deeply ridiculous situation...** > >> > >> D'oooh, too much stupid contradictions and drama for nothing... ;P > >> > >> Take care, dear all. Or not, your choice only. > >> > >> c. > >> >