On Tue, 15 May 2018 16:36:22 -0400
Steve Kinney <ad...@pilobilus.net> wrote:

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> On 05/15/2018 03:17 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 May 2018 22:16:50 -0400
> > grarpamp <grarp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> https://guardianproject.github.io/haven/
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr0wEsISRUw
> >>
> >> Haven is for people who need a way to protect their personal spaces
> >> and possessions without compromising their own privacy. It is an
> >> Android application 
> > 
> > 
> >     ah yes. Running a counter-surveillance system on hardware
> >     and O.S. owned by the enemy makes so much sense...
> 
> Depends one's threat model, but yes:  Deploy a sensor network like the
> one described on 'smart' phones and viola, one presents a ready made
> high value surveillance installation to any actor with back door
> access to the devices used.
> 
> The U.S. State Department should fund this project if necessary to
> assure its completion and deployment as a convenient turnkey
> installation, endorsed by "rebel" branded media personalities. 


        Yes. And that is exactly what the so called "guardian project"
        does IIRC. let me recheck....

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian_Project_%28software%29

        "has received funding from Google, UC Berkeley with the
        MacArthur Foundation, Avaaz, Internews, Open Technology Fund"

        bingo.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Technology_Fund

        "U.S. Government funded program created in 2012 at Radio Free
        Asia " 

        rest of funders are of course total scum, either
        pentagon-corporate or left-wing-fascist(that is,
        pentagon-corporate).


> It
> fits the only-us model of security fail so beloved of the NSA & Co.,
> resistant to exploitation by State actors not under U.S. control, but
> wide open to Uncle Sam's boys and girls.

        Yes. Since signal was mentioned in the advertising blurb,
        signal deserves some comment as well.

        
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Whisper_Systems

        OOPS. Lo an behold. Signal got 3 millions from the pentagon
        again via the so called 'open technology fund'

        'anarchist' moxie is such a principled hero...

        the nice thing about signal is that you need a
        pentagon-smartphone to use it. Cooool!! Oh and moxie works for
        fukkkerberg, making facebookkk great again!! that's even
        coooler!!



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> Relevant:  See "Attacks over the radio processor" in this rather long
> article detailing cell phone vulnerabilities, which seems to indicate
> a hardware level back door in every one of those gadgets.
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> https://web.archive.org/web/20150605192550/https://pravokator.si/index.php/2014/06/02/on-mobile-phone-security/
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> =or=
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> https://tinyurl.com/cell-phn-insecurity
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