On 08/02/2018 09:54 PM, juan wrote: > On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 14:05:04 -0700 > Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> wrote: > >> On 08/02/2018 01:46 PM, juan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> https://protonvpn.com/support/linux-vpn-setup/ >> >> You never know ;) >> >> So have y'all heard any more about the cat fight between PIA-cofounder >> rasengan and ProtonVPN? The protonmail account on HN basically claimed >> that PIA cooperates with the Chinese government.[0] And that this >> accounts for the fact that the GFW wasn't blocking PIA as thoroughly as >> other VPN services. >> >> And that presumably triggered rasengan's attack on ProtonVPN and >> NordVPN.[0,1] He's criticized both for failing to disclose connections >> to Tesonet. And he's characterized Tesonet as a data-mining service, >> riffing on their competitive-intelligence pitch. >> >> Tesonet is apparently an enterprise VPN service, in Vilnius, which >> focuses on B2B competitive intelligence. So maybe the allegations >> regarding ProtonVPN and NordVPN are misleading. I mean, Tesonet is >> serving data miners, but is arguably not data-mining its own customers. >> And any VPN service could data-mine its customers ;) >> >> But it is quite the cat fight :) >> >> And really, it'd be amusing if PIA actually were China-centric. That'd >> arguably make them _more_ secure for those concerned about the NSA. > > > Oh interesting. Thanks for the info.
And hey, now AirVPN has piled on NordVPN and ProtonVPN :) https://airvpn.org/topic/28876-why-you-can%E2%80%99t-trust-nordvpn/ > I wonder about falkvinge and PIA. My thoughts on the subject aren't too > clear, but it's something along the lines of : falkvinge and and a vpn > associated with him seem to be high profile/a high value target so they must > have been attacked? Compromised? He's relatively new to PIA, since 2016. And I'm not sure what "head of privacy" means. I doubt that he has a very technical role. I'm overall somewhat ambivalent about PIA. A US court subpoenaed logs, and they said "we have no logs". And that was apparently the end of it. But that could of course have been just a dumbshow. They do support lots of privacy-friendly stuff, though. But bottom line, you can't assume that any VPN is honest and not compromised. That's just how it is. And so you must deal with it. >> 0) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17254113 >> 1) >> https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/anyone-using-protonmail.394862/page-2 >> (near the end) >> >> >> >> > >