Happy "solstice" thank you very much! We'll have none of that hemisphere bigotry Down Under (TM)(R)(NPC) tyvm :)
Only tolerance-Nazis ought be allowed to post - Censoreship for all :D On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 10:49:35PM +0200, Cari Machet wrote: > I LIKE TO SAY: PURITY IS A COFFIN > > some freedom some imprisonment - just like life we are free we just happen > to be experiencing life in a very limited container > > so what about those pesky little undersea cables all going to the turtle > island - u s of a ? > > umn without them we got nothin goin too fast anywheres > > when did they get laid ? 1854 > > by a coorporation > > life is a build and dualism has run its course ... good and bad boys do > good and bad things and sometimes what they do that is considered bad ends > up being overall good and vice versa > > happy winter solstice - when the sun is still - all the beautiful people on > this listserve > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2018 at 9:19 PM juan <juan....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 22:55:23 +0000 (UTC) > > jim bell <jdb10...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >> 26 years is "forever" in technology. 26 years ago, very few people > > had even heard of the "Internet". > > > > > > > Actually in the last 26 years there hasn't been any significant > > 'technological' change *at all*. The only thing that happened is that > > microelectronics got relatively cheaper. > > > > > > You forgot that in 1992, typical dialup modems worked at 9600 bps. Now, > > most people have access to 25 megabits/sec Internet. > > > > > > I don't think I've forgotten that. That fact isn't just too > > relevant to what I'm saying. > > > > TM : "Networks are multiplying beyond any hope of government > > control," > > > > Point is, 26 years ago there was no 'technological' reason for > > that to be true just like there's no reason for that to be true now. > > Networks were (supposedly...) beyond govcorp control simply because govcorp > > wasn't devoting many resources to control them, not because they lacked the > > 'technology' to control them. > > > > Yet another point is who 'owned' those networks. Oh wait, they > > were and are owned by a few monopoplies chartered by the government, > > monopolies that are of course just arms of the government. > > > > > > > > > I occasionally see people in discussion areas claim that "the U.S. > > Government" was responsible for making "The Internet".I shut that talk > > down, > > > > > > You do? =) Yet it is a plain historical fact that the US govt and > > military were heavily involved in the creation of the internet. > > > > > > >by pointing out "Do you think that The Internet would have 'worked' if a > > person, at home, had to connect up to his ISP at with a 300 bps modem? > > 1200 bps? 2400 bps?"I counter by pointing out that the people REALLY > > responsible for a usable Internet were those who developed the 9600 bps, > > 14,400 bps, and 28,800 bps modems. Rockwell, USR (US Robotics), Hayes, > > Telebit, and a few others. Had that not existed, it would have been hard > > to make the Internet available to most people. > > > > > > The main or only reason those audio modems were developed was to > > use the existing telephone lines. Yet in 1995 ethernet run at 100 > > megabits... > > > > > > > > > It took a lot of work to learn how to shove 28.8Kbits/sec down a 3000 Hz > > channel. > > By and large, those people who did that were the ones who made the > > Internet of the late 90's possible. > > > > > > Nah. On the other hand, it's true that all the hardware was > > produced and is produced by pseudo 'private' government chartered firms. > > Which is how highly corporatist mixed economies work. > > > > Bottom line : the belief that freedom is 'served' by 'technology' > > is fully detached from reality. > > > > > > -- > <https://about.me/carimachet?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb> > cari machet > about.me/carimachet > <https://about.me/carimachet?promo=email_sig&utm_source=product&utm_medium=email_sig&utm_campaign=gmail_api&utm_content=thumb>