On 5/25/21, Greg Newby <gbne...@pglaf.org> wrote: > Hi, Karl. The list was a bit quiet yesterday. Perhaps cpunks were outside in > the Big Blue, or otherwise engaged. I sent a note that you should have > received.
I found it (but never received it): https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2021-May/087696.html Guess it's an issue with me receiving things via gmail. > On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 12:11:26PM -0400, Karl wrote: >> Hey Greg, >> >> Can you confirm that people _subscribed_ to the list experience a spam >> filter now? I thought my emails were getting spammed due to not being >> subscribed, but it turns out this address is, actually, subscribed; I >> was told this when I attempted subscribing. > > Yes, there are a few standard spam filters and related mechanisms on the > server. This includes Spamassassin, DKIM, SPF, and DMARC. These have been in > place since the list moved to pglaf.org a few years ago. When you said "Any subscriber email address can post anything" at https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2021-May/087482.html I thought you meant that there as no spam filtering of subscribed posts. I infer I misunderstood. My perception of cypherpunks has been of a list where no posts are censored, it being up to the users to filter their mails. Do you have a memory of this? > I have not observed any messages from you that were flagged as spam or > rejected. Do you receive this link to a message of mine that was rejected? https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2021-May/087594.html > If you are seeing other people's messages in the list archive, but not > getting them in your inbox, the first thing to check is your Gmail Spam > folder. If messages still don't arrive within a few minutes, send me details > and I can check the server logs to see whether delivery was attempted and > what happened. I have my spam filter configured to prevent all cpunks list messages from being spammed, so it's something else. Maybe routing delay. Hey, did you ever receive the attached e-mail? I'm not finding it in the list archives. It was sent on April 30th.
MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 07:31:35 -0400 References: <000001d73d1f$e819bb80$b84d3280$@li> In-Reply-To: <000001d73d1f$e819bb80$b84d3280$@li> Message-ID: <CALL-=e40PDWgZzK=uzbjs4oc5vpq+go74jpjqrh1hgqbwws...@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine From: Karl <gmk...@gmail.com> To: Greg Newby <gbne...@pglaf.org> Cc: cypherpunks <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000675c6105c12ef462" --000000000000675c6105c12ef462 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Greg, can you clarify whether or not the list is doing spam filtering? On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:49 PM lolwut <lolwut9...@cock.li> wrote: > Spam detection software, running on the system "mail.pglaf.org", > has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original > message has been attached to this so you can view it or label > similar future email. If you have any questions, see > the administrator of that system for details. > > Content preview: > > Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 4.0 required) > > pts rule name description > ---- ---------------------- > -------------------------------------------------- > -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% > [score: 0.0000] > -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record > 1.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in > bl.spamcop.net > [Blocked - see < > https://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?37.120.193.123>] > 0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED RBL: ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to > DNSWL was blocked. See > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block > for more information. > [37.120.193.123 listed in list.dnswl.org] > -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) > [37.120.193.123 listed in wl.mailspike.net] > 1.3 RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL RBL: Relay in Validity RPBL, > https://senderscore.org/blocklistlookup/ > [37.120.193.123 listed in > bl.score.senderscore.com] > -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record > 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not > necessarily > valid > -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK > signature > -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from > author's domain > 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with > no rDNS > 2.8 DOS_OUTLOOK_TO_MX Delivered direct to MX with Outlook headers > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: lolwut <lolwut9...@cock.li> > To: <cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org> > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 13:48:29 -0400 > Subject: RE: Dan Kaminsky Dies from Vaccine > -----Original Message----- > From: cypherpunks [mailto:cypherpunks-boun...@lists.cpunks.org] On Behalf > Of > Shawn K. Quinn > Sent: Wednesday, 28 April, 2021 9:36 PM > To: cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org > Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: DAN KAMINSKY DIES FROM VACCINE > > >On 4/28/21 16:50, lolwut wrote: > >> Shawn, you should take a look at [link removed] > >I looked at it, and it looks like the typical conspiracy theory horseshit. > > >COVID-19 is real, it can definitely kill you, and it is definitely "not > just the flu". Thankfully, the pandemic (note, no "l") appears to be almost > over. > > >-- > >Shawn K. Quinn <skqu...@rushpost.com> > >http://www.rantroulette.com > >http://www.skqrecordquest.com > > It's fine that you disagree, and it's fine that you call it "conspiracy > theory horseshit", but don't be a dick and deliberately tell everyone that > you've removed (read: censored) the link with "[link removed]" when quoting > my previous message. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html You > can trim out quoted sections for purposes of brevity, of course, but it's > clear in this instance that that wasn't your aim. > https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html In prior messages with > Punk, I recall, you also seemed quite keen in obsessively and condescending > "correcting" his messages when quoting him (e.g., if he wrote "jew", you > would replace it with "[Jew]") as a cheap and easy way to look like the > smart one. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html > > Even if you don't agree with the statement of the author of that page that > the coronavirus isn't real, that isn't the entire content of the page. > https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html I personally think that > it > is real, and that it can kill you, but not any more than the seasonal flu; > and that, regardless of its actual danger, the lockdowns cannot be > justified. https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html > > > --000000000000675c6105c12ef462 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">Greg, can you clarify whether or not the list is doing sp= am filtering?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D= "gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 29, 2021, 1:49 PM lolwut <<a href=3D"mailto:lol= wut9...@cock.li">lolwut9...@cock.li</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote cla= ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa= dding-left:1ex">Spam detection software, running on the system "<a hre= f=3D"http://mail.pglaf.org" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"= >mail.pglaf.org</a>",<br> has identified this incoming email as possible spam.=C2=A0 The original<br> message has been attached to this so you can view it or label<br> similar future email.=C2=A0 If you have any questions, see<br> the administrator of that system for details.<br> <br> Content preview:=C2=A0 <br> <br> Content analysis details:=C2=A0 =C2=A0(4.3 points, 4.0 required)<br> <br> =C2=A0pts rule name=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 descrip= tion<br> ---- ---------------------- -----------------------------------------------= ---<br> -1.9 BAYES_00=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0BODY: B= ayes spam probability is 0 to 1%<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [score: 0.0000]<br> -0.0 SPF_PASS=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0SPF: se= nder matches SPF record<br> =C2=A01.3 RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET RBL: Received via a relay in<br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"http://bl.spamcop.net" rel=3D"noreferre= r noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">bl.spamcop.net</a><br> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[Blocked - 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Quinn<br> Sent: Wednesday, 28 April, 2021 9:36 PM<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org" target=3D"_blank" rel= =3D"noreferrer">cypherpunks@lists.cpunks.org</a><br> Subject: Re: *SPAM* RE: DAN KAMINSKY DIES FROM VACCINE<br> <br> >On 4/28/21 16:50, lolwut wrote:<br> >> Shawn, you should take a look at [link removed]<br> >I looked at it, and it looks like the typical conspiracy theory horsesh= it.<br> <br> >COVID-19 is real, it can definitely kill you, and it is definitely &quo= t;not<br> just the flu". Thankfully, the pandemic (note, no "l") appea= rs to be almost<br> over.<br> <br> >--<br> >Shawn K. Quinn <<a href=3D"mailto:skqu...@rushpost.com" target=3D"_b= lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">skqu...@rushpost.com</a>><br> ><a href=3D"http://www.rantroulette.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" t= arget=3D"_blank">http://www.rantroulette.com</a><br> ><a href=3D"http://www.skqrecordquest.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer"= target=3D"_blank">http://www.skqrecordquest.com</a><br> <br> It's fine that you disagree, and it's fine that you call it "c= onspiracy<br> theory horseshit", but don't be a dick and deliberately tell every= one that<br> you've removed (read: censored) the link with "[link removed]"= ; when quoting<br> my previous message. <a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/coron= a.html" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.n= eocities.org/ghost/corona.html</a> You<br> can trim out quoted sections for purposes of brevity, of course, but it'= ;s<br> clear in this instance that that wasn't your aim.<br> <a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html" rel=3D"norefe= rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/co= rona.html</a> In prior messages with<br> Punk, I recall, you also seemed quite keen in obsessively and condescending= <br> "correcting" his messages when quoting him (e.g., if he wrote &qu= ot;jew", you<br> would replace it with "[Jew]") as a cheap and easy way to look li= ke the<br> smart one. <a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html" re= l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.neocities.o= rg/ghost/corona.html</a><br> <br> Even if you don't agree with the statement of the author of that page t= hat<br> the coronavirus isn't real, that isn't the entire content of the pa= ge.<br> <a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html" rel=3D"norefe= rrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/co= rona.html</a> I personally think that it<br> is real, and that it can kill you, but not any more than the seasonal flu;<= br> and that, regardless of its actual danger, the lockdowns cannot be<br> justified. <a href=3D"https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/corona.html" re= l=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://digdeeper.neocities.o= rg/ghost/corona.html</a><br> <br> <br> </blockquote></div> --000000000000675c6105c12ef462--