> in a discussion among a group of utopians, a purportedly recovered > torturers revealed that they were engaging many horrible experiences > accomplishing simple utopic day to day tasks > > other utopians had not known this, and it was requested that people relate > about this, rather than simply forging ahead with tasks that were not > actually simple [-- >
[some dropped. Let's see if I can partly translate: - when it seems all experiences are horrible (e.g. if gruesomely injured) one can assume suffering is a required component of activity - for _at least,_ the cases where there are states of existence that reduce the suffering and promote healing, in a utopic environment everybody prefers the states that are better! and generally discussing this helps improve the situation further - when the situation is not easy to relate, it helps for others to have more skill and experience, for the situation to be understood ad one that is workable where suffering can reduce rather than be a prerequisite at the start of mcutopia #4.327e9 there were no survivors who knew how to recov-- or to talk about successf-. but as more groups reach states n-- ea :)
