>What I object to is the _forced_ "kindness" based on mob rule, where 
>it is decreed that we must all donate money at the point of a gun to 
>support welfare bums who got high instead of reading and studying.

Welfare may have started with the best of intentions, but the result is
multiple generations of families on welfare, welfare mothers and fathers
entering 'AFDC' as their occupation (Aid to Families with Dependent
Children, i.e. welfare), kids being dragged through crackhouses from birth
and then shipped off to school where the teachers are supposed to overcome
all the bad influences the child took in from birth to 5, etc.   Not to
mention parents who say, "I never learned my multiplication tables and it
never hurt me none."  [I suspect Tim and I could swap lots of these kinds of
stories, with my wife and his sister both being teachers.]  Receiving
welfare without having to work for it in some way doesn't work -- we have
given it a fair try as a society, only to prove just how bad the idea was.


>We should not only end taxation as we know it today, we should 
>imprison those who have stolen our taxes and force them to work off 
>their debts. Put them in camps and let them work off their debt. For 
>most of them, this will make life in the camps. Sounds fair to me.

Maybe it's because I'm a Lutheran small-'l' libertarian who thinks that even
Lucifer will eventually be redeemed, but imprisoning them doesn't seem to
solve the problem to me.  Just giving current welfare recipients the choice
of working or starving seems like the best solution to me, as it addresses
the current problem of the welfare recipient taking from society and not
returning anything to society.  Anyone who can't adapt to that solution will
either starve or turn to crime.  Those who turn to crime will eventually be
ground under the wheels of justice -- although the chance of getting caught
on any one burglary is only 2%, burglars have a yearly chance of 78% of
being caught due to the necessary repeat nature of the crime.  Justice is
not swift, but it is relentless in a relatively law-abiding society like the
U.S.A.
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Mark Leighton Fisher            [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thomson Consumer Electronics    Indianapolis IN
"Their walls are built of cannon balls,
Their motto is `Don't tread on me`"


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