21 July 2000. Add message and names. 

20 July 2000 



To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 July 2000
Subject: PSIA Request

July 20, 2000

Federal Bureau of Investigation
NCCS, New York
C37

Dear FBI,

This confirms my telephone remarks today that I decline
your request to remove the list of members of Japan's 
Public Security Investigation Agency posted on Cryptome:

  http://cryptome.org/psia-lists.htm

The file shall not be removed except in response to a US 
court order.

You have informed me that your telephone request to remove
the list was made at the request of the Japanese Ministry of
Justice and that no US criminal investigation is underway in this 
matter.

You said that you will convey to the Ministry of Justice that I
have declined to remove the list and that I should expect
to be contacted directly by the Ministry of Justice as a result
of declining to remove the list.

You said that you will speak to the US Attorney and call me
again.

I have agreed with your request not to identify the two FBI Special 
Agents to whom I spoke today.

I told you that I would be publishing an account of this on Cryptome.

Regards,

John Young
Cryptome



Note: Yes, it is contradictory that Cryptome will publish the PSIA names but not those 
of the FBI
Special Agents. The senior Special Agent said at the end of the conversation that if 
his and the other
agent's names were published "you are going to be in real trouble." Until that time 
both agents had been
very polite. He then said he was going to take the matter up with the US Attorney and 
call again. 

So we're brooding on that threat, pondering the FBI names on this notepad, comparing 
this situation
with that of the MI6 names and the MI5 names and the Iranian names and the PSIA names 
and the CIA
names Cryptome has published. In none of the other instances was Cryptome threatened. 
And are
wondering why the FBI carnivores deserve privacy we don't get from them and the 
world's surveillance
agencies. 

More later. 

Meanwhile, if curious send an inquiry to the FBI address on our e-mail. Or telephone: 
212-384-3155. 



Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:34:27 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Loop: openpgp.net
From: John Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PSIA Request

July 21, 2000

Federal Bureau of Investigation
NCCS, New York
C37

Dear FBI,

This supplements my message yesterday on declining to
remove a list of names of members of Japan's Public Security
Investigation Agency from the Internet site Cryptome.org.

In that message I wrote that I agreed with your request to not 
identify the two Special Agents who spoke to me on this matter.

After reflecttion on this I have decided that publishing the names
of the Special Agents would be consistent with publishing the
names of the PSIA members, and in both cases the purpose
of publishing is to contribute to public awareness of how
government functions and to identify who performs those 
functions. I believe this is why the two Special Agents readily
identified themselves to me and that it would be appropriate
for me to share that information with readers of Cryptome.

Therefore I shall publish the names of the two Special Agents 
who spoke with me at:

   http://cryptome.org/fbi-psia.htm

Sincerely,

John Young
Cryptome




The FBI Special Agent who initially telephoned was James Castano. Mr. Castano 
explained the Ministry
of Justice request to remove the PSIA material and answered all my questions about it. 
I explained my
intention to publish an account of the FBI's request on Cryptome because there had 
been interest in
how such requests are processed between governments. I asked if I could provide his 
name in the
account. He asked with emphasis that I not do so. I agreed. 

In the course of discussing my sending an e-mail to Mr. Castano, his supervisor, 
Special Agent Dave
Marzigliano (I believe he spelled it), came on the phone and repeated the information 
Mr. Castano
provided about the Ministry of Justice request. 

Both agents were very courteous during most of the conversations. Except toward the 
end of the
conversation with Mr. Marzigliano, when I mentioned my intention to publish an account 
without
revealing his and Mr. Castano's names, he warned me there would be "serious trouble" 
if their names
were published, and that he would be speaking with the US Attorney about the matter 
and call me
again. 

Mr. Marzigliano did not explain why their two names should be concealed, why there 
would be
"serious trouble" if revealed, what "serious trouble" meant, the legal basis for such 
trouble, nor what it
was in my comments that alarmed him. 




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