----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim May" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Secret Warrants and Black Bag Jobs--Questions > On Wednesday, August 8, 2001, at 04:03 PM, Dr. Evil wrote: > > >> I agree with Dr. Evil about the unlikelihood of it ever happening, but > >> if it > >> did, I think the intruder is toast. In California, there is the > >> presumption > > > > Actually, now that I think about it, I think it is essentially > > impossible for it to ever happen. If it were to happen, it is almost > > certain that either the breaking-and-entering team or the > > suspect/homeowner or both would be injured or killed in the ensuing > > firefight. The FBI knows this. Having agents injured is absolutely > > unacceptable to them, and having suspects injured or killed is also a > > highly undesirable outcome for them. You can be sure that during the > > break-in, they would have a team watching every approach to the house. > > If somehow or other someone showed up to enter the house during this > > time, and the FBI couldn't get him distracted in some way, they would > > just flash their badges and arrest him before he went in. > > And now that I think about it some more as well, I wonder if some of the > more controversial black bag jobs are subcontracted out to NGOs. The > stuff of many a bad B-movie on late night cable, there are still a lot > of reasons why gangs would be hired to hit the homes of political > dissidents. Absolutely they are- but quite a bit more sophisticated than the "gang" or "mafia" contacts a la the U.S. and Cuba in the 1960s. See e.g. E-Systems (look particularly at it's board of directors- a who's who of former intelligence big wigs). 8 of every 10 dollars in their contracting revenue are from classified projects. E-Systems employees were frequently doing counter-narcotics intelligence work inside the U.S. and reporting directly to intelligence agencies without the charter to operate domestically. This came to light more recently when one E-Systems employee- while cleaning his weapon in a motel room in preparation for an operation- had an accidental discharge and killed a guest in the adjacent room. (4+ million paid to the widow after a lawsuit in 1991). > --Tim May
