At 03:19 PM 9/1/2001 -0400, Faustine wrote: > > > > When you talk about "collaborating" and ZKS selling beta software to > > the NSA, are you saying you've got information that ZKS gave the NSA > > access to more information than the general public got, and/or that > > the NSA got their access or information meaningfully earlier than the > > general public? > >Actually, it would be far more more informative to get them to explain >exactly what happened instead of relying on third-party empty hearsay and >hot air from me, since honestly that's all I've got. But I'm sure there are >a lot of reasons--some of them contractural--you'll never hear the whole >story. Especially given that you'll never get anything more than loose talk >from the other side. Well, if all you've got is hearsay and hot air, then I think it's unfair to tag them with words like "collaborator" or suggest that they're not trustworthy - those are pretty serious allegations to make. I'm aware of examples of cryptosystems and companies which were compromised by intelligence agencies - and also aware of baseless FUD and conspiracy theories spun against uncompromised software unfairly. -- Greg Broiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] "We have found and closed the thing you watch us with." -- New Delhi street kids