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Internal debate as a necessary and healthy means of revitalizing our party Outsiders naturally regarding our leaders as fugitives The assassination of Abu Ali Mustafa inspiring further resistance Our people's intifada providing the only viable hope to end occupation SUMMARY Comrade Ahmad Saadat ("Abu Ghassan"), General Secretary of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, confirmed that intellectual, political, and organizational debate gives life and liveliness to our party and to any party that seeks to renovate itself in light of contemporary developments. Saadat told "al-Hadaf" that among the armed patriotic Palestinian groups, the Popular Front is the most courageous in addressing its situation, problems, and contradictions. "Abu Ghassan" emphasized that it is a natural condition for the General Secretary of the Popular Front to be a fugitive, sought by the forces of occupation. He went on to explain that the criminal assassination of Abu Ali Mustafa, a heroic leader who embodies our struggle, has inspired our comrades, friends, and all Palestinian patriots to return with heightened vigor and take active roles in our struggle. Regarding the unification of the patriotic democratic currents, Abu Ghassan called for political and social programs to augment the quest for a unified ideological stance. He said that whoever views the intifada as a means of deliverance for our people must start with an introspective struggle within himself, reflect upon the Palestinian Authority's options in the direction of the popular program, and then direct all of his or her power and determination against the occupation. He added that an official declaration of support by the Palestinian Authority for the intifada is necessary to encourage the same by Arab governments. Otherwise, he indicated, many regimes will continue to rationalize their neglect and avert their duty to the promote the intifada, the implications of which are regional or even global in scale. The General Secretary noted that the first requirement for attaining popular participation in the decision making process must begin with rebuilding the Palestine Liberation Organization and electing representatives of the armed organizations and the institutions to the Palestine National Council directly from the people. He elaborated that a policy must be built on the basis of principles rather than on political illusions and compromises that provoke self-defeat by undermining our collective strength and the viability of our self-defense. FULL TEXT OF THE INTERVIEW AL-HADAF: Some observers say that you were elected as part of a compromise and without real elections. They are referring to a lack of democracy in the inner party life of the left-wing Palestinian groups. What is your comment on this? SAADAT: If there was a compromise, that would not bother us at all, if it contained a possible formula for the internal unity of the Party. Compromise, as is legitimate, necessary, and appropriate in external political relations, is also legitimate within the framework of relations of parties and political forces. Compromise also does not invalidate the rules that govern the work of the leading institutions of the Popular Front and neither does it harm the democratic process. Any formulation, whoever proposes it, will in the final analysis be submitted to the Central Committee for ratification. Despite all that, there is no basis for concern regarding this legitimate question, because the election process for the position of the General Secretary and the Deputy General Secretary took place in accordance with the Party statues for elections that are followed by the Popular Front and that constitute one of the fundaments of its internal political system. If there were complete agreement, why would we have competing candidates for the post of General Secretary? Why would ballots have been distributed, then taken up and counted? If there had been agreement, it would have been possible simply to vote by acclamation in less than an hour without any need for administrative arrangements to bring together circles of the Central Committee at the same time, spending a whole day just to carry out an election. >From another standpoint, the notion of compromise implies the existence of full-blown factions with their own positions and members. These do not exist in the Popular Front. Yes, there are different viewpoints on this or that issue, and there are struggles between the different opinions, but there are absolutely no groups that express their own opinions as factions inside the bodies of the Front or outside them. THE UNITY OF THE POPULAR FRONT AL-HADAF: A lot has been said about the existence of different trends within the Front, one moderate and the other extremist. How do you respond to that? Is the Front free from internal differences or different orientations? What are the mechanisms for internal dialogue within the Popular Front on the different levels of its hierarchy? Is there any concern about the Front's unity? SAADAT: It is not strange or wrong for there to be struggle over politics and ideas inside the Front. In fact, that is the natural logic of internal life for any democratic left-wing party. Stormy debate over ideas, policies, and organizational matters gives life and liveliness to any party that strives to renew itself and to follow the new developments in reality. It is unnatural and inappropriate for there to be personal struggles always tied to private interests of individuals that are expressed most of the time in primitive, tribalistic ways, in the form of unprincipled coteries that practice sabotage inside and outside the party, tossing aside the organizational rules that govern relations of the members of the party with its bodies, and the relations of the party bodies inside the hierarchy and structure of the party. These bring the subject of struggles down to the lowest level and prevent their development and elevation to a level where they respond to the concerns and needs of the people and their national and democratic cause. An end was put to this personal form of struggle in the life of the Popular Front more than two decades ago, although features of it reappear in times of stagnation and crisis. But these are only secondary and marginal manifestations that do not affect the course of the Party. The essential issue that we must emphasize is that the Popular Front is the most inclined of any of the organizations in the Palestinian national movement to muster the courage to address its situation, problems, and contradictions. This is not only internally, but also realistically on the political and public mass level. People who refer to the documents from the Popular Front's past congresses will see the depth and responsibility of the political review that the Front has given itself at every stage. They will see the courage in its self-criticism of mistaken points of view. The documents of the Sixth National Congress in their various political and organizational aspects did not depart from this basis. In the basic political document, presented in a programmatic form, diverse points of view were discussed on the subjects, details, and principle areas of difference inside the Front. The convening of the Sixth National Congress resolved in general the basic details of the Front's viewpoint and working program for the coming period. Everyone - cadres, leaders, and members - came together on the basis of respect for the Congress's resolutions. At the same time, they practice their right to have distinct viewpoints and to maintain dialogue and struggle over different ideas on the basis of commitment to these resolutions. Finally I would like to say that we have not yet reached the level of a model Party. I would say, however, and with conviction, that we are proceeding after the Sixth National Congress on the path that will lead us towards fulfilling this ambition, and to achieving qualitative changes in our development, although we may never be able to attain an absolutely ideal situation. The sea of life is always renewing itself and whoever wants to swim in that sea must renew himself at every instant. What is ideal today will be backward and lifeless tomorrow. THE NEW ROLE AND MISSION AL-HADAF: Some people believe that your own personal situation, as a man wanted by the occupation authorities, will prevent you from fulfilling your new role and mission. How can you overcome that? SAADAT: I am surprised that this question is raised. Is it necessary that there be one model or arrangement for work in the leadership, for playing the role of top official that must apply to every Palestinian organization? Has not the history of world revolutionary movements presented examples of leading bodies in parties, all of whom were fugitives, outlaws, being pursued by the authorities? In spite of that, they were able to lead their people towards victory. If the general secretary of any party can only work in easy conditions that enable him to hold meetings, to communicate, to use modern technology, and to move freely wherever his work takes him, that would mean either that this leader would be out of the country, or that he be on the alert against doing anything that would anger the Israelis. He would have to declare the peaceful coexistence of his party with the occupation. In such a situation, the enemy would facilitate his mission, and he might become even more famous in the information media that have become adept at manufacturing leaders in our contemporary world. In the end, the natural condition of a General Secretary of the Popular Front and of its leading bodies is to be wanted people, fugitives of the occupation authorities, inasmuch as we adhere to the Front's program of collision with the occupation. At the same time, necessity dictates that the leaders of the Front must contrive forms for working arrangements that allow them to fulfill their national role and not lag behind in carrying out their obligations to our people and their national and democratic cause. Just as every disease has its cure, the revolutionary knowledge and abundant experience of the Front are a guarantee that we will overcome all the challenges that the reality of struggle with our Zionist enemy places before us. THE PLACE AND ROLE OF THE POPULAR FRONT AL-HADAF: The Martyrdom of Comrade Abu Ali Mustafa has motivated many members of the Front who have been hanging back or who had left the Front to come back to its ranks. The stage that followed Oslo and before the intifada, on the other hand, witnessed a decline in the role and activity of the Front. Do you have a plan to bring back the role and place of the Popular Front, and what are its features? SAADAT: What I can say and what reflects reality is that the Front has correct guidelines in this area, guidelines it has adopted at three stages: the stage of holding the Sixth National Congress, the stage of the intifada, and the latest and most outstanding stage when the crime of murdering Abu Ali Mustafa inflamed the feelings of comrades and friends and of all Palestinian patriots. It motivated them to return and join the ranks out of loyalty to their leader, to their party, and to their people. I say with optimism that our comrades, men and women, who were officially outside the organizational ranks were never for one day outside of general patriotic activity. Many of them did not wait for initiatives or plans to be issued by the Party. Rather, they signed on and merged themselves and their activity with party work, with the party program. Some of them are cadres who possess gifts and a valuable stock of experience and who have the ability also to participate in drawing up the arrangements and programs to win back those who remain officially outside the ranks of the Party, and also to attract those among the masses who are ready to join the activity of the Party, its institutions, or its associated committees. In the framework of a thorough evaluation and despite my optimism that is derived from my knowing the strength of character and spirit of responsibility that the members of the Party and its cadres possess, their legacy, and militant history, I say that until now the arrangements and programs that have been drawn up do not respond to what is demanded and necessary to integrate the army of the Party into an actual organization and to translate into reality its militant, patriotic, and democratic program. This requires a serious examination by all levels of the general cadres in the Popular Front. THE PATRIOTIC DEMOCRATIC CURRENT AL-HADAF: The Palestinian Patriotic Democratic Current remains divided despite the efforts that have been made to bring it together and unite it in the course ____________________________________________ ___________________ There is less in this than meets the eye. Tellulah Bankhead [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org --------------------------------------------------------------------