This was a spoof. A few other suspects in my inbox under names here. ~Aimee
> -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Aimee Farr > Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 10:33 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Homeland Deception (was RE: signal to noise proposal) > > > Faustine > If I was not a lady I would say you are full of shit > > > > On 26 Mar 2002 at 23:07, Faustine wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Faustine: > > Aimee wrote: > > > >Well, I doan' kno' nuttin' 'bout no agents. That fact has been > > >established. > > Careful parsing is the spice of life... :P > >>So sayeth the academic-researcher-grad student pretext... :P > > IT S A CONSPIRACY!!!! -some poor idiot, right now > > > > >But, you know, after pondering on that a bit...What if "the lie" was > > >supposedly "really secret stuff?" > > >You know, "ME LUCKY CHARMS!" > > >I know the little boys and girls are after me lucky charms. > > >If "3 or more agents" happen to run in the door with me lucky charms, > > Sounds about right. > >>Yep, they would be lucky and charming. > > Ha! Look, even if you like the idea of PSYOPS in Afghanistan (for > instance), > you have to admit what s surfaced in the media has been > embarrassingly crude > and ham-handed. I suppose the best you could hope for is that it > s really all > part of a play the idiot and look ineffectual strategy while diverting > attention from the real business at hand. Risky, at any rate-- > since as any > good poker player knows, the merest twitch of the eyelid risks being > interpreted as weakness, causing your opponent to raise the > stakes. Not good. > Failing any evidence to the contrary, it s likely just wishful > thinking though. > I m really not in the all feds are incompetent donutchompers > camp, but more > and more it s looking suspiciously like the donutchompers have > the upper hand. > And whatever deceptive advantages might possibly come from the *public > perception* of rampant incompetence and donutchompery, the drawbacks are > deadly. Strength is good. I think Ashcroft and co. are making a > HUGE mistake > playing up the Christian goody goody schtick it plays straight > into the Arab > fundamentalist interpretation of the US; and the realists won t > believe it (and > wouldn t give a crap anyway. And never did.) Even more > worriesome, though, is > that some of them actually seem to believe it. America ought to > deserve better > than to be run by a bunch of simps. Emphasis on ought. > > By the way, did you catch the video of Ashcroft singing some cheezy > maudlin patriotic gospel song at a theological seminary? At a fake press > conference podium, yet. Surreal. Absolutely nauseating, made my > blood boil. > Didn t know whether to laugh or throw up... > > John Ashcroft SINGS! Let the Eagle Soar > > http://www.ifilm.com/ifilm/product/film_credits/0,3875,2424640,00.html > > AAAaaaaAAAaaaAAAGH! > Ahem. Where were we. > > As someone once said, I d rather side with someone who burns the > flag and wraps > themselves in the Constitution than someone who burns the Constitution and > wraps themselves in the flag. > > > > What shows that the snowers know they've slowly been snowed? Bet > > it keeps a lot of people awake at night, that one. Tricky, but > fascinating. If > > anyone knows of any good links to counter-deception detection, > drop me a line. > > Not sure how "on topic" it is, but something everyone here > would do well to > > read about. Either that, or just default to not trusting > anyone, ever. Works > >for me. > > >>Empathy skills in personal matters. > > You mean like gaydar for bullshitters? > > > >>On a grand scale: > > >>1. counterdeception teams - multidisciplinary, "non-cultured," > outsiders -- > >>creatives, narratives, hoaxers, jokesters, emplotters, etc. > > Yeah but where? In the TLAs themselves? Consultants? Here s my > card, I m with > Flimflam Inc, an In-Q-Tel startup... Where s the oversight? > Getting a room > full of natural-born bullshitters together sounds dangerous no > matter who s > footing the bill. And put a con in a room full of squares call > it personal > bias if you want to, but I know where I d put my money as to who > d come out > ahead. Hm, unless you consider the case of Hanssen, the genuinely > square con. > Just goes to show you the limits of pigeonholing and profiling. > > > >>2. devil's advocacy in the event stream > > Yep. Complacently blocking out opinions you disagree with is > always a bad idea. > > >>3. competitive analysis > >>4. MUST HAVE: highest-level precision black channels -- > requiring nothing > >>short of a resurrection. Close surveillance. Sneaky submarines > are not good > >>enough. > > Catch 22 re. the Deutch prohibition on working with scummy types. > I think it > points to the need to re-evaluate exactly what it is we re trying to > accomplish. > > > >>5. Cultural change -- a bit of British eccentricity; decision-maker > >>sensitization > > Reminds me of the classic story about the time Herman Kahn was > asked about Dr. > Strangelove: "Dr. Strangelove would not have lasted three weeks at the > Pentagon... he was too creative." > > > >>6. Monitoring of foreign open source media and organizational theme > >>variations (quantitative content and textual analysis; > inferential scanning) > > Absolutely; open source analysis is for everyone. > > > >>7. Monitoring of internal organizational dissenters, > noncomformists and the > >>intuitives (instead of quashing them, solicit them) > > Hey, I m game. Be sure to file all this under the expectation of > being conned > category though. the niceties of good faith or bad faith I do > believe I ll leave to the discretion of rest of the study... LOL > > > >>Due to the changing nature of the world, the U.S. could easily > find itself > >>hoodwinked, isolated, paralyzed and worse. It used to be > "Uproar in the East, > >> strike in the West." > >>Today, it's "Fool the Sky." (transparent or false-flag cover plan) > > Yep. > > (interesting points snipped) > > > >>As part of Homeland Defense, we need Homeland Deception. > "OPERATION TRICK > >>TERRORISTS?" Instead of deception coming from the top, bring it > up from the > >>bottom in a security context. (Some people are working on it, > but we could be > >>doing more.) I just know there is guy taking ticket stubs somewhere on a > >>nontraditional delivery vehicle. I bet he has an idea, or once > exposed to > >>certain concepts -- could come up with one -- because he knows > his operative > >>context better than anybody else. > > Right, but there s a utility tradeoff; get too complex and clever > for your own > good and you end up shooting yourself in the foot--worse off than when you > started. And unless you find ways to bring fresh blood into they > system without > getting a bad case of blood poisoning (to overextend a metaphor) > unfortunately > I have to admit it looks pretty dim. The one thing I know is that a mad > theocratic dash toward giving up freedom and individuality for > security and > conformity will only hasten the decay, not cleanse it. Something > to keep in > mind. > > ~Faustine. > > > *** > > He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from > oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that > will reach to himself. > > - --Thomas Paine > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: PGPsdk version 1.7.1 (C) 1997-1999 Network Associates, > Inc. and its affiliated > companies. (Diffie-Helman/DSS-only version) > > iQA/AwUBPKFFaPg5Tuca7bfvEQLs4QCfbogE2I//CCRPCpXfHPHwgtoXknsAnj0i > 4qrD9U1tbYG9tEe0Jlq6x6s7 > =NvtI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________________________ > > There is less in this than meets the eye. > > Tellulah Bankhead > [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.ssz.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.open-forge.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------