On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, cubic-dog wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, Jim Choate wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, cubic-dog wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't see Stalin/Hitler, I see;
> > > 
> > > Standard Oil/
> > > Department of Transporation/
> > > Interstate Commerce Commission)
> > > General Motors/
> > > Ford/
> > > and so forth.
> > 
> > It's worth noting that the first two wouldn't have had near the impact
> > they did if not for the help from entities like the later.
> 
> I think it's fair to say without cooperation on
> behalf of all the players, none of them would have
> been in the posistions of power and influence
> that they were. (some still are)
> 
> > You draw a false distinction.
> > 
> 
> How so? 

See your own responce, think about it this time.


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