On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Stefan Behnel <stefan...@behnel.de> wrote:
> [CC-ing cython-dev]
>
> Lisandro Dalcin, 16.12.2010 23:03:
>> On 16 December 2010 18:53, Stefan Behnel wrote:
>>> Lisandro Dalcin, 16.12.2010 22:33:
>>>>
>>>> Just a few comments about this changeset:
>>>>
>>>> changeset:   4244:e0508ac59b35
>>>> user:        Stefan Behnel
>>>> date:        Thu Dec 16 20:11:29 2010 +0100
>>>> summary:     provide 'builtins' builtin module in -3 mode
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> IIUC, under -3 we can use both "__builtin__" and "builtins", but under
>>>> -2 only "__builtin__". Why not to also provide "builtins" under -2
>>>> mode? We are already supporting "builtins" in some parts, for example
>>>> at ModuleNode.py, method "generate_type_import_call()" ...
>>>
>>> Well, as long as it actually means that users can import any of the two in
>>> their code and have it work at runtime in both Py2 and Py3?
>>
>> Yes, of course...
>>
>>> But that would
>>> require that Cython changes the user imported module name depending on the C
>>> compile time environment. I'm not sure that's a good idea.
>>
>> Well, the code at generate_type_import_call() work along these lines,
>> right? I mean, it translates __builtin__ and builtins to the right
>> name in the C runtime.
>
> But that's only when it actually runs in Py3, which is still in "eventual
> migration" state for many users. As long as you keep your code in a Py2
> environment and only "import __builtin__", Cython won't do any magic behind
> your back.
>
>
>>> The problem I see is that users may have a "builtins" module lying around
>>> somewhere in their Py2 code base that Cython would misinterpret and wouldn't
>>> be able to import. "builtins" isn't that a bad name for a module, e.g. in a
>>> plugin environment...
>>
>> Yes, you have a good point. However the import would need to be
>> absolute for Cython to misinterpret it, right? I would argue that such
>> code smells...
>
> It didn't smell all that much before Py3 renamed the module.
>
> Anyway, I'm +0 on changing this. Let's hear what the others think.

I'm +0 as well.

- Robert
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