Elisa,
Thank you for replying to my comment.
This is why I will always treasure my adopted country (USA) for the freedom 
without prejudice to choose to take any action that satisfies your personal and 
family wellbeing as long as it does not hurt your fellow's wellbeing.
My family in South America (a melting pot all born to former Bukowiners, 
Galitzianers, Morrocans, Halabis and Hocht Deutschers- Yekkes) under the threat 
of Comunism, Freedom, Political asylum and Criminality (Antisemitism was never 
an issue) had no option but search for other countries: Israel, US and Spain 
(Sepharad) that continue to provide stability and freedom to contribute along 
our "new" fellow and aspiring citizens and grow with our kids in peace. For us, 
it was a "practical" driven decision learned from our European, Magreb and Arab 
Gparents.
I'm happy and respect about your "emotional" decision and hopefully my kids and 
Gchildren will enjoy both the "emotional and practical" and decide which 
country offers them the best option (Hard to beat USA 🙂)

Happy 2nd Hanuka Day
Rony

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Rony,

To answer your question I'll use some prose my son wrote:
"It's a variety of reasons, ranging from the emotional to the practical. 
Foremost, our grandfather (to whom both me and my mother were very close, and 
admire enormously) always felt that he was an Austrian Jew, and to some extent, 
going through this process feels like a way of honoring him and identifying 
ourselves with him.
...
More broadly, Germany and Austria making provisions to return citizenship to 
victims of the holocaust and their descendants is part of the respective 
federal republics recognizing the harm their predecessor states did, and I'm 
also happy to participate in a process of historical 
memory/atonement/reconciliation. "

I hope this help you understand why there are many of us going though this 
ordeal.

   Elisa Heymann

With all due respect to all the members of this list.
I am also a direct descendant of Bucovina. My GGparents were from South 
Galitzia, Czernovitz, Radautz and Arbore. All former A-H jurisdictions. My 
maternal Gfather fought and was wounded with the Czernovitz regiment under 
Austria during WWI. However, being a veteran did not save him and his family 
from deportation to Transnistria. He and my maternal Gmother are buried either 
in a mass grave or in one of the countless unmarked burial sites nearby 
Moghilev.
I am the son of Holocaust survivors, born in Venezuela, today proudly a U.S. 
citizen. Raised without hatred but with a solid Jewish identity, a strong 
foundation of our origins, and memories of a "Vanished World" (as coined by Mr. 
Christian's blog). I would add: Intentional Vanished World...
While the U.S. is not perfect, and I value a society and system of free choice, 
I am baffled why anyone holding US or Israeli citizenship would ever entertain 
(so intensely by some in this and other blogs, yes including FB), the idea of 
an Austrian passport.
Why is this so important?
I would understand if you were trying to migrate from a troubled (i.e. 
Venezuela) or a country with increasing antisemitic incidents.
https://www.dw.com/en/austria-antisemitic-crimes-hit-record-high-in-2020/a-57343980

At the end of the day, everyone is free to choose...
Happy Hanuka
[cid:[email protected]]<https://www.dw.com/en/austria-antisemitic-crimes-hit-record-high-in-2020/a-57343980>
Austria: Antisemitic crimes hit record high in 
2020<https://www.dw.com/en/austria-antisemitic-crimes-hit-record-high-in-2020/a-57343980>
The Jewish Community of Vienna has found that right-wing ideology played a 
significant role behind Austria's antisemitic attacks.
www.dw.com<http://www.dw.com>



Rony Eisenthal

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