On Fri, 2014-01-17 at 08:50 -0500, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:07:55 +0100 > Ralf Mardorf <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 12:05 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 06:58:11PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2014-01-16 at 17:36 +0000, Iain M Conochie wrote: > > > > > Gazing into my crystal ball, there will be a 3D interface that will > > > > > blow us all away, and the kids will laugh at us for using a mouse / > > > > > keyboard. > > > > > > > > Not necessarily! We eat using classic knifes since several hundred years > > > > and btw. a good knife isn't produced by a computer controlled machine, > > > > but handcrafted by a craftsman. > > > > > > But these, sure as hell, aren't sold in grocery stores. > > > > Correct! And I suspect that it isn't allowed to sell and buy a good > > knife in Germany anymore without a "firearms licence" (this joke doesn't > > work in German, we don't have a "firearms licence", here it's called > > "weapon license"). IOW to get a good pastry chef's knife you need the > > same "weapon license" you need for a katana or pump gun. So people are > > used to use carp to cut a steak and they win the impression, that > > computer controlled machines can punch out good tools ... they simply > > don't know how good the quality of tools was just a few decades ago and > > they believe all the hype that in the digital age everything is better. > > It simply isn't better, quality of technology nowadays is as worse as it > > never was before, let alone social quality. When did they build the > > first katana ;)? > > Your references to the katana illustrate a problem with your argument: > the supposed superlativeness of the katana is apparently something of a > myth, and the necessity for all that cool-sounding folding of the metal > was simply due to the Japanese use of inferior pig-iron - IOW, the craft > of katana forging was largely about compensation for inferior > technology: > > http://swordsmithvs.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/katana-vs-european-swords/ > http://www.thearma.org/essays/longsword-and-katana.html > http://www.cracked.com/article_20634_6-things-movies-get-wrong-about-swords-an-inside-look.html > http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KatanasAreJustBetter > > Celejar
I don't say that the katana is the best sword ever, I quasi said that a handcrafted sword is better than a computer controlled assembly line sword. I didn't read those articles, sorry, but I'm aware that the western smithies aren't less good than the eastern. However, JFTR, many scalpels are rounded like a katana, because a rounded form has got a minimal point and a straight form a large surface. Better for cutting is a minimal point than a large surface, but this also could be made by computer controlled machines. A computer controlled machine can not _feel_ the correct points to forge steel, humans can. I'm from the Ruhrgebiet, a German coal and steel region. _______________________________________________ D-community-offtopic mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
