(I'm compiling quotes from a few recent messages to comment on; just 
because I didn't quote you, doesn't mean I'm not considering your 
thoughtful replies, though. :) )

Peter Decker wrote:
> I hadn't thought about it before, but seeing the two entries starting
> with 'Python Desktop...' made me think: since Dabo is really the only
> serious tool out there for desktop apps, why not use that in the name?
> I'm used to the name 'Dabo', but it doesn't mean anything to anyone
> outside of those who are already using it. Calling it 'Python Desktop
> Studio' (my current preference) may be far-reaching, but nothing wrong
> with that - you guys should be promoting this as strongly as possible.

Python in the name: +1
Studio in the name: +1
Limiting to desktop apps in a web world: -1

I think that even though Dabo is a desktop app framework now, and that 
is definitely a strong suit, naming the tool to limit it to that realm 
may not be ideal. Then again, I'm open to be convinced that this tool we 
are talking about naming will indeed be limited to desktop apps - we may 
build a 'python web studio' in the future, but this one is strictly desktop.


Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
 > I don't like these "serious" names that will get abbreviated, every
 > abbreviation has too many meanings.
 > E.g. PDS is the Party of Democratic Socialism in Germany, could also
 > mean Processor Direct Slot, Peter Decker System or something else.
 >
 > Either a pythonic name (possibly related to some Monty Python movie),
 > or some other funny and otherwise meaningless name like dabo.

I like Dabo in the name. I can't decide if I like Dabo in the name 
better than Python in the name, but I do suspect having both in the name 
is too much.

Over the years, I've come to realize that the Python community really 
doesn't share a cohesive vision of what is good and what is bad in 
software. Indeed, I think quite a few think we are wasting our time with 
this Dabo thing: they just don't understand the problems we are trying 
to solve.

My fear is that having Python in the name will somehow backfire: instead 
of gaining traction with it we'll be open to all kinds of finger 
pointing and derogatory remarks like "who do these people think they are 
/ I do all I need with emacs and code by hand".

However, I've always liked "Python Studio" which was suggested to me by 
Steve Holden a couple years back at PyCon. I could get sold on one or 
more of:

+ Python Desktop Studio
+ Python Web Studio
+ Python Studio

But, I think like "Dabo" better, probably because I have lots of 
connections to what Dabo is in my head, so I'm biased.

+ Dabo Desktop Studio
+ Dabo Web Studio
+ Dabo Studio


david whiting wrote:
 > My tuppence worth:
 >
 > The naming thing is tricky. I've come across two issues recently:
 >
 > i) having a name that is specific enough to make it easy for people to
 > search for it
 >
 > ii) making sure it is easy to know what the name means/is for.
 >
 > So, I like (and voted for) "Dabo Studio" on the grounds that "Dado"
 > makes searches reasonably specific and "studio" has a well-defined
 > meaning in this context.

This is a good point. My current mood is:

+ Dabo Studio at ~10 points
+ Python Studio at ~7 points

But moods change. Keep talking. One thing "Python Studio" has is the 
acronym "PS", which is kind of cool (but unsearchable).

Paul

-- 
pkm ~ http://paulmcnett.com


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