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THE DAFYOMI DISCUSSION LIST brought to you by Kollel Iyun Hadaf of Yerushalayim Rosh Kollel: Rabbi Mordecai Kornfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] [REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE TO DISCUSS THE DAF WITH THE KOLLEL] ________________________________________________________________ Sanhedrin 072: "Ba ba'Machteret" who gets trapped under rubble on Shabbos Josh Hersch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> asked: the meiri on this gemorah says that if ein lo damim you are only not allowed to save him if it is a safek nefashot (not sure if alive or dead). Doesn't safek nefashot have the same din as nefashot mamesh by pikuach nefesh? Josh Hersch, Woodmere. NY, USA ---------------------------------------------- The Kollel replies: The footnotes (of Rav Yitzchak Ralbag, #102) in the annotated edition of the Me'iri poses your question in the name of Sefer Dina d'Chayei (the commentary of the Mizrachi on the Semag). D. Zupnik -------- It would seem that the Me'iri is suggesting that if the tunnel collapses on a thief, we are *not certain* whether the thief is still intent on his theft. If there is a possibility that the thief is already dead, we do not save him because of a Sfek Sfeika: maybe he is dead, and even if he is alive maybe he still wants to steal. (The Me'iri himself mentions this latter possibility later in the paragraph.) If he is certainly alive, we save him because of Safek Piku'ach Nefesh (as you said). Although we normally are Mechalel Shabbos even for a Sfek Sfeika of Piku'ach Nefesh, this case is treated more leniently since the second Safek depends on the mindset of the thief, and not on a physical fact. M. Kornfeld To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this text in the body of the message: unsubscribe daf-discuss