On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, H.Merijn Brand wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:52:46 -0500 (EST), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > This is a build failure report for perl from [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > generated with the help of perlbug 1.33 running under perl v5.7.0.
> > 
> > Daily build and smoke test by smokingjacket v0.01.
> 
> Is it wrong to presume that people/builders/testers/smokers building bleadperl
> *ALSO* /read/ p5p?

Not specifically, no.

> Why is it that if Jarkko /explicitly/ tells that db-* fails with the latest
> tarball that bug reports keep streaming in which report exactly what was
> announced to fail?

FWIW, smokingjacket rsyncs perl-current - unrelated to the tarball.

> A PLEA TO ALL:
> 
> *READ* what Jarkko writes as comments with the latest tarballs and *DO NOT*
> report bugs that are announced, in order to prevent the perlbug database to
> flood with duplicates that are *known* in advance.

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of code that allows me to easily seperate
known test failures from unexpected test failures barring some interesting
modifications to the test suite.

> At this time I do /not/ have time to mark them duplicate, but think about the
> poor soul that has to detect those ... Yes, it's a lot of work, and it's not so
> long ago that we did a cleanup with common effort. Let's keep the open bug
> count as low as possible, which also motivates bug diggers to pick up open bugs
> to fight.

How, then, should we be doing daily build failures?  It sounds as if
perhaps the smoke test builds should not be going into the bugdb, but
instead to the smokers(whatever it's called now, sorry) list.  I'd be more
than willing to move my apparently redundant bug reports there - I'll get
to see them, interested parties who wish to see the burning parts of the
tree can subscribe and watch, and I'll know within a day when that bug
gets fixed.

The issue here seems to be that as we automate more and more the process
of reporting build failures, we're flooding the bugdb with lots of
hard-to-seperate-out reports.  Perhaps it's time to add a category to the
bugdb to support these tests?  I don't expect that automatic build testing
is going to cease any time soon, but nor do I believe that each automatic
build report should become an open bug.

Suggestions?

R.

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