On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 02:42:14PM +0000, Viktor Dukhovni wrote:
> On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 08:30:52PM +1000, oneofthem wrote:
> 
> > 1. Is DANE finished? Ready to go, rock and roll?
> 
> The TLSA RR has been standardized.  What remains to do is to define
> how TLSA records are to be used in various application protocols.
> 
> For application protocols that use SRV records there is a draft in progress.
> There is another draft for SMTP based on the SRV draft since MX records
> are similar to SRV records.
> 
> I have proposed two recent drafts (see the list archives) that address in
> more detail how applications that can't use the existing public CA PKI
> should interact with DANE (in particular SMTP) and also some implications
> for various corner cases.
> 
> I have also proposed that applications "follow CNAMEs" to derive
> the base domain for TLSA records.  It remains to be seen whether
> this will gain any traction.
> 
> OpenSSL does not yet provide ready-to-use DANE verification code,
> so applications based on OpenSSL have to roll their own.  This will
> change at some point, though I hope in not too soon, since the
> required changes are invasive, and need some time for the design
> and implementation to be validated.
> 
> > 2. Is it possible for DANE to replace the CA system currently in place?
> 
> For server domains that have deployed DNSSEC, and applications
> where clients have DNSSEC validating caching resolvers (or have
> chosen to embed DNSSEC capable stub-resolvers directly in application
> code) it is possible to bypass the existing public CA PKI.
> 
> Just publish TLSA records with usage "3" or perhaps "2", and with
> usage "2" make sure to include the TA cert in the server's TLS
> handshake certificate chain.
> 
> -- 
>       Viktor.
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Thank you for your in depth response!

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