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i mentioned, because, in windows side, these are the only choices so
far for firefox which at-least can be used easily.

So it seems, for windows users, best (and probably only one,
current) alternative is : using a VirtualBox or using your own
choice of Virtualization software based Linux/Unix VM instance, with
a minimal X / GUI / Desktop (LXDE, XFCE, etc), and then doing tests
using the Bloodhound web-browser from such VM.

- -- Bright Star.

Received from Viktor Dukhovni, on 2013-05-28 10:00 PM:
> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 09:11:13PM -0700, Bry8 Star wrote:
> 
> 
>> I would agree completely, these addons have many more bugs and far
>> from perfect. Even in "3 s m" or "2 s m" detection & verification,
>> not very consistent yet.
> 
> You are much more charitable to major design and implementation
> flaws than I am willing to be.
> 
>> So very likely internal source-codes are tuned for limited TLSA
>> cases only.
> 
> Why promote the use implementations that don't even correctly
> implement the subset of parameters they set out to support?
> 
>> It would have been great, if those two addons could show cert chain
>> or debug info on which exact certs or chain of certs these addons
>> have checked/verified.
> 
> IMHO it would have been even better if at least the one I read was
> never released to the public.  Don't confuse the feature set with
> the implementation.
> 
> How do you know they do what they claim to do?  Be skeptical of
> new implementations of security mechanisms (including mine).  They
> need to be thoroughly vetted before they are fit for use by the
> public.
> 
>> And if those two addons are further improved for using with
>> Thunderbird for _993 , _995 , _25 , _465 based services then that
>> would have been very helpful. Currently those two addons do not
>> understand those DNS RR.
> 
> More flawed security code used more broadly is not progress.
> 
> Yes, there should be multiple implementations, but not very many.
> Security libraries and plugins need to be written with above average
> attention to detail and must stand the test of time.  The design
> should be feature complete and generally correct, before any code is
> written.
> 
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