On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Osterweil, Eric
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Nico Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>> <name>+<list> is not configured.  They're magic... if your MTAs are
>> configured so anyways.  These uses exist precisely because they were
>> a) permitted, b) handy.  So now we have to deal with them.
>
> Indeed, but I think this a powerful feature that lets users advertise their 
> intent.  If someone wants to add protections to their list subscriptions, or 
> wants to add different crypto to different email aliases, then configuring 
> the encr/signing behavior independently is a feature, not a bug, me thinks.

People who do this mostly want to filter into folders based on
recipient address.  They are able to magically create new sender
addresses without doing anything special.

>> I still fail to see what inbound fuzzy match of local parts has to do with
>>> the problem.
>>
>> It's true that we don't have to specify a lookup service to deal with
>> fuzzy matching.  However, the <name>+<list> users will have start
>> manually publishing those.  That seems like a pain.
>
> Again, if someone wants to receive encrypted email or have their signatures 
> verified, it seems reasonable to advertise their intentions explicitly.  I 
> really think this is a feature, not a bug.

A lookup protocol does this, either by applying local rules such as
s/[+].*$// or whatever they like.

>> Also, using DNS for this opens mail domains to zone walking to find
>> mailboxes, whereas a proper lookup service wouldn't (it would still be
>> an oracle, but there would be no NSEC* to facilitate discovery of all
>> email addresses at the domain).
>
> I mentioned a candidate approach to dealing with this at the mic yesterday.  
> I think this could easily be a domain and MUA configurable option with some 
> of the proposed enhancements we’ve coded into SMIMEA, but I don’t want to 
> distract this thread too much.  Maybe we can start a new thread for that 
> (over beer, perhaps). ;)

I don't remember it.  Can you remind us?  Debating the +list thing is
more distracting, I think :)

Nico
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