On 8/10/20 10:21, Guillermo Rozas wrote:

    It is Ubuntu 20.04 derivative - fully updated, and the bios is also
    fully updated. Both CPU and GPU are not overloaded in terms - they
    never
    lock at 99% on all cores (my old machine can run on this load for
    many
    hours - no overheating - max goes to about 90 Celsius no power supply
    disconnect). But the new machine runs often at more than 100
    Celsius (as
    a peak temperature). Normally it is within 85-95 under load but peaks
    above 100


You should distinguish the two "problems":

yes sorry

a) power supply disconnects (this is critical as when it happens it drains the battery).

b) too hot - I am starting to see a pattern that this is a general ryzen 3900 issue


- the CPU gets too hot: maybe it is not a problem, it is what it is. Notebook's thermal limits are always compromised, even on "gaming machines". You can clean filters, fans, re-apply thermal paste, but in the end the limits are still there.

- the BIOS and/or kernel is not throttling the CPU as it should, and this is causing the hardware safety switches to shut down the computer. Some safety measures are not reset until you fully cut the power to the motherboard, so it's not strange that you need to disconnect the power brick to turn it on again.

    What are the peak temperatures of your computers when under load?


Mine (Intel 4720HQ) goes up to 97-98°C before aggressively throttling back. You should check on AMD's site which are the warning and maximum temperatures for your particular CPU, and compare them with the data the system has. For example, using the command "sensors" for me shows:

Package id 0:  +55.0°C  (high = +84.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

Thank you!

On completely idle machine I am getting

iwlwifi_1-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +40.0°C

BAT0-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
in0:          12.35 V
curr1:         0.00 A

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
Tdie:         +71.9°C  (high = +70.0°C)
Tctl:         +71.9°C

acpitz-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
temp1:        +73.0°C  (crit = +120.0°C)

When hot - it goes over 100 C - about 104 to 107.


which is consistent with the thermal throttling in my CPU when the temperature is around 85-95°C. As I said before, unless the throttling safeguards are improperly configured or disabled, your CPU should never get hot enough to shut down under normal operation. My CPU is old and power inefficient by today's standards, and even then it's capable of working on passive cooling alone by automatically lowering the frequency to the minimum (accidentally tested once the fans got stuck).

Things to check:
- is frequency scaling working at all?
- which is the frequency scaling governor?
Some info: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_frequency_scaling

Thank you - will check that.
Regards,
Guillermo

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@Jack Bowling

Thank you for the video looks like it has to be done within the OS. My bios is very limited - no changes available for frequency and voltage. Will also check with the manufacturer (they support linux).

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