Hi Jan,
I agree with Patrick's suggestion to destroy your library.db. You are
aware of the darktable folder in the user folder on Windows. I would
delete it and all traces of Darktable from your system. I had to do this
when I reverted a student's DT from version 3.60 to version 3.4 because her
Chinese language computer worked with 3.4 but not 3.6 (different issue to
what you are suffering).
Can I make the following suggestions to you using DT (or Lightroom or any
non-destructive editing program). When you do an edit, export it as a
16-bit tiff file so if your DB is corrupted or lost your hard work is safe.
The xmp file saved with the RAW file contains your edits also. BTW, the
export module is on the right side in the lighttable view and the left side
in the darktable view. Putting the export module in the darktable view was
a great idea by the developers. I also have bookmarked in my browser the
online user manual for Darktable. I refer to it often when I can find
something, don't understand something or want to know more about a feature
or module.
I presume you are getting your installation files from the official site
https://www.darktable.org/install/
DT v 3.6.1 from this site is not faulty.
good luck
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 01:13, Patrick Shanahan <p...@opensuse.org> wrote:
> * Jan Minekus <algem...@minekus.org> [10-15-21 10:02]:
> >
> > Op 14-10-2021 om 22:12 schreef Patrick Shanahan:
> > > * Jan Minekus <algem...@minekus.org> [10-14-21 04:59]:
> > > > Thank for your reaction.
> > > unless requested otherwise, one would be expected to keep a
> conversation
> > > on the mail list.
> > I believe I'm now doing this now.
> > > > I'm using windows home 64 bit with laptop HP Pavillion 17, with 16
> GB extra
> > > > memory and a new 250 GB SS, and a desktop computer that has not been
> > > > changed.
> > > "has not been changed" makes no sense to me.
> > It means that on my desktop I have another darktable 3.6.0 installed
> which
> > containes other directories and files.
> > I did not update that one.
> >
> > > > My problem with the 3.6.1 installation is that the new features (par
> exemple
> > > > quick acces) are not available. Also the export tab should now be at
> the
> > > > left side in darktable.
> > > on my development/master version the export tab is *still* on the right
> > > panel.
> > >
> > > > Some foto's files are changed.
> > > I am not in front of your computer and cannot see nor understand "some
> > > foto's files are changed". would you understand that if I had said it?
> > In a quick overview some files seem to have much more noise in them, as
> if
> > the contrast is much too high.
> > > > So my conclusion is that the new installed darktable is not complete
> or in
> > > > some way faulty. May be install again over the present install?
> > > your install quite well may be faulty.
> > >
> > > I would remove *all* traces of a "faulty" install before reinstalling
> > OK!
> > >
> > > > I consider to delete the whole installation. Install darktable 3.6.0
> or
> > > > 3.6.1 again.
> > > 3.6.0 is not current and 3.6.1 is current stable.
> > I will install the 3.6.1 darktable
> > >
> > > > If I understand you correctly I could use 3.6.1. without any
> troubles . Or
> > > > to be safe use 3.6.0?
> > > answered.
> > >
> > > > I have a darktable database backup from before I changed darktable.
> I can
> > > > overwrite the new database in the users directory with this backup?
> > > you can, but your results depend on what else you have done.
> > After a new clean install, should I overwrite the new database with the
> > current database folder???
> > It would contain all my old and recent edits??
>
> I am not you and my choices would be different. If you don't have 100k
> images, I would destroy library.db and re-import all my images.
>
> > > > Would there be a problem with the xmp-files? I always write the
> edits to the
> > > > xmp-file
> > > if you write changes to the xmp files, destroying *all* of your
> darktable
> > > installations and reimporting after a new, successful install should
> suffice.
> > >
> > > > Some files are edited under the faulty(?) installation.
> > > > I could delete those xmp-files and edit the files again?
> > > you could, but ...
> > If I use the last database folder, I believe it contains all my old and
> new
> > edits??
>
> I don't know what your are inferring?
>
> > > > My last resort is to use a backup of my system partition, and also
> look for
> > > > a backup of the changed files to restore?
> > > > But I would lose the changes I have made in other folders and
> programs.
> > > so you have a choice.
> > But I prefer not to use system backups because it will make a lot of
> changes
> > > > Another question about my database files. Under my users folders in
> the
> > > > darktable folder there are 30-40 entry's of files as -
> > > > data.db-snp-20210926141253 and library.db-snp-20210926141253.
> > > > Can I delete them?
> > > you can, but they are backup of your database(s) designated by your
> > > configuration. you really should read about darktable and your
> > > installation.
> > I will leave them alone.
> > > >
> > > > Met vriendelijke groet,
> > > > Jan Minekus
> > >
> > > > Op 13-10-2021 om 22:01 schreef Patrick Shanahan:
> > > > > * Jan Minekus <algem...@minekus.org> [10-13-21 13:52]:
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm not sure if I'm using the correct email addres about my
> trouble
> > > > > > installing darktable 3.6.1 over the old installation 3.6.0
> > > > > > I have lost the different email addresses of the list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have the new darktable installed in a seperate directory, so I
> could
> > > > > > continue work with the old one.
> > > > > > I did not realise 3.6.1 is not a stable one.
> > > > > > Problem is that after deleting the old darktable the new 3.6.1
> is not
> > > > > > correct.
> > > > > > So I ran the installation of the new one again.
> > > > > > I had to update the database.
> > > > > > I did not realise 3.6.1 is not a stable one.
> > > > > > But some things are missing - the new quick acces in darktable.
> Also the
> > > > > > images appear to be altered.
> > > > > > Also the export module is still in the right panel.
> > > > > > How can I resolve this?
> > > > > > I'm thinking to remove the complete installation of darktable
> and install
> > > > > > the latest version again.
> > > > > > That should be 3.6.0 as the latest stable one
> > > > > > Is that possible, to remove the installation and install the
> 3.6.0 version
> > > > > > again.
> > > > > > I don't want to lose my edits.
> > > > > if you have saved the sidecar, xml, files with your images, they
> contain
> > > > > your edits and flags. A new import to a fresh database will
> contain those
> > > > > edits.
> > > > >
> > > > > afaik, 3.6.1 is stable. I don't know why one would think
> otherwise.
> > > > >
> > > > > you have not explained what is incorrect with 3.6.1, nor your
> operating
> > > > > system, ...
> > > > >
> > > > > one would only be guessing to try and help you.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > > you are your own sysadmin and determine what you do. make informed
> > > choices, there is *much* documentation.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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> do we really need to keep repeating the entire history/thread with every
> post? usually an artifact of top posting and using windows.
>
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