Hallöchen!

Max Killer writes:

> [...]
>
> Regarding the histogram, it is correct that it changes with your
> display profile. You are working in a defined colorspace if you
> profiled your monitor and calibrated it correctly. What you see is
> the representation of this colorspace. The advantage of working
> with darktable and RAW files is that they have _no_ colorspace to
> begin with.

I don't consider this an advantage.  My ideal workflow would be:

1. Load a RAW in a given calibrated colour space and convert it into
   a universal colour space (Lab, XYZ, etc) as early as possible.

2. Apply all the transformations (i.e. what darktable's modules do),
   e.g. gradation curves, noise reduction, sharpening, etc.

3. Output into a given colour space, e.g. sRGB.

This implies that all info modules (colour picker, histogram) also
refer to the universal colour space of (2), or to a *well-defined*
subspace like sRGB.

> So everything you do you do in the working colorspace of your
> monitor, which is the greatest colorspace you can _see_. The
> histogram is a representation of this. A histogram is not absolute
> for a picture without a color profile. You could "fix" the
> histogram by setting everything to "adobe sRGB", for example, but
> this would limit your working colorspace.

I do image editing work in darktable with a certain result.  Among
other things, I look at the histogram for this, and edit according
to what I see there.  If the histogram changes just by switching to
another monitor, my result image would change.  For example, if I
own a cheap monitor, at least I'd like to have tools that tell me
how the real colour distribution is.

In other words: The image editing program should make the influence
of the hardware as little as possible.

> The colorspace of the picture is only relevant for export,

Possibly I don't understand you correctly here, but without knowing
the colour space of the input image file, darktable cannot work
properly.

> there you decide which colorspace the image should have
> (e.g. sRGB) and darktable converts the data from the working
> colorspace to the output profile.

Yes, the image editing program should take the output profile take
into account e.g. mark colours that cannot be printed.  But the
*display* profile should not change anything in the diagrams and
figures.

Tschö,
Torsten.

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Torsten Bronger    Jabber ID: [email protected]
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