I disagree with this view. We can not and should not try to satisfly every
one. That would make system more complex than it should be. Not only it's
going to be complex, in this case default option is more likely to be use
more than other. So it's more likely that other option will be less useful
that it should be.
Yes, it's would upset me if it's not implement in the way I want, but it's
doesn't mean it a bad thing. I don't see why I can not live with it. :)
Just think about this for a second. If we do have two/three behavior to
choose, and we always add them as options. We end up implement every thing.
Why go that far? Why try to satisfly every one on the expense of
complexity, which lead to more difficult to maintain. Developers won't be
happy because system is not fun to work with any more. The system get more
buggy, and difficult to change when users request new features. Now users
are not going to be happy. I think end up we get more unhappy people.
Just implement one behavior (specially in this case) and make it well ...
Then system is less complex, easier to understnad, and change. Developer
would be more happy to work with. Then we can get better software, less
bugs or problem. I am pretty sure users would be more happy to use it.
To make it clear, I am not again "options" if it's nessesary. But in this
case, we probably be fine just implement one. I will have more happy to use
what ever we implement.
Ask yourself, do you really get every thing work in the way your like in
Darktable? ... More likely, there are going to be some thing that you don't
like but mostly it's work fine for you. You probably prefer software that
work than software that have more feature or options but doesn't work well.
Or am I wrong about this?
With respect,
:tom:
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Jiew Peng Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
> I wanted to see it as an option because making something the default
> without providing an option satisfies some users and upsets the rest. It's
> a bit like the solo mode thing; there is a default but you can change the
> option to the opposing behavior if that is what you want. Providing options
> can satisfy all users since users can customise the behavior according to
> what they want
> On 14 May, 2013 9:41 AM, "Anocha yimsiriwattana" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I respectfully disagree on making this as another option.
>>
>> Adding option is the best way to make development complicate,
>> and difficult to add more functionality.
>> Specially in this case which we try to support two incompatible behavior
>> of system. It's would make implementing, and testing to aware of both
>> behavior, which is difficult and complicated. It's mean more bugs. Better
>> just stick with one behavior and make it work without any problem.
>>
>> Regard which behavior we want to implement, that probably depend on what
>> the group decided :) ...
>>
>> I my opinion, to keep it's consistent with other programs make the DT be
>> more acceptable, but it's also easily to make mistake. I think the change
>> would improve usability, which out weight keeping consistency with other
>> program, IMHO. Unless there is other reason that I don't know ... I like to
>> see this behavior implemented :)
>>
>> Regard,
>> :tom:
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Jiew Peng Lim <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps this could be made an option rather than the default, since the
>>> current method makes it consistent with other programs like GIMP. If you've
>>> used other photo editing programs before, all of them work like DT in terms
>>> of the history stack. If you click on an item in the history stack and
>>> change something, it overwrites everything after that.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 May 2013 01:26, Anocha yimsiriwattana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That great. We should not loose all the work that has been done after
>>>> the history module.
>>>> We can do manually to "compress history stack" if you want to clean up
>>>> that way :)
>>>>
>>>> However, I also want to see the module "open up" when I select it in
>>>> the history.
>>>> I am not sure if it's already work that way. I can not test it now. It
>>>> is not mention in the feature request ticket.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> :tom:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Emmanuel Lacour
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 05:26:54PM +0200, Marie-Noëlle Augendre wrote:
>>>>> > If I'm not mistaken, with the current procedure, you loose all
>>>>> the work
>>>>> > that has already been done after this module if you access it via
>>>>> the
>>>>> > history.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I do this sometimes by mistake when I click on an history item to
>>>>> look "older" version and forgot to click back on the top one before
>>>>> using modules, I loose everything above :(
>>>>>
>>>>> It's another subject, but I think this "history reset" should be
>>>>> protected a bit more (maybe an are you sure yes/no question?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's open a feature request for this ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.darktable.org/redmine/issues/9421
>>>>>
>>>>>
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