There's something in this discussion that I'm missing...  the order of
modules is really two things:
1) the order in which they are shown in the gui
2) the order in which they process the image

I may have missed it if this was already discussed, and in that case I
appologise.  I simply wonder of those two aspects of module order must
be tightly connected, or if gui order could differ from processing
order, technically.  Would that be desirable for a "creative"?  would
it for a "tech"?

Cheers,
Richard

In message <CA+tuQdNPuF8MfEayTr1jkkT=rnguii77xbfb6s1gcalf51j...@mail.gmail.com> 
on Mon, 13 May 2013 23:11:32 +0800, Jiew Peng Lim <[email protected]> said:

brapodam> However, if the devs say that rearranging the modules will break 
basic DT principles, then I
brapodam> suppose we'll just have to get used to it. Sometimes it really isn't 
as simple as we users hope it
brapodam> would be.
brapodam> 
brapodam> On 13 May 2013 23:07, Jiew Peng Lim <[email protected]> wrote:
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Hi
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> In Lightroom, all the processing stuff are on the right side of the 
screen, as in Darktable. I shall list them from top to bottom.
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Right at the top you have the RGB histogram. You can change the 
exposure levels of the shadows, highlights and midtones by dragging along the 
histogram.
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Below the histogram are stuff that are used in any point of a 
photographer's workflow. They also have shortcut keys to access them. These 
tools include crop and straighten, spot removal (with option for cloning or 
healing), red eye reduction, graduated filter that can adjust just about any 
parameter found in the basic panel and lastly an adjustment brush that does the 
same stuff that the graduated filter does, in a brush form.
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Below that is a basic panel, which nests the most frequently used 
adjustments.
brapodam> -Treatment: Colour or grayscale
brapodam> -WB picker and presets
brapodam> -Temperature and tint
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> -Exposure
brapodam> -Highlight Recovery
brapodam> -Fill Light/Shadow Recovery
brapodam> -Blacks
brapodam> -Brightness
brapodam> -Contrast
brapodam> -Clarity/Local contrast
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> -Vibrance
brapodam> -Saturation
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> After that is the Tone Curve panel, with sliders to adjust black 
levels and stuff. Also has preset curves that you can apply. This is only a RGB 
curve, not the LAB curve found in DT nightlies
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Following that you have the HSL panel, which is the colour zones 
module in DT
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Then you have a Split Toning panel which is pretty self explanatory
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Then you have a Detail panel which does sharpening, noise reduction 
and CA adjustments
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> After which you have a lens corrections panel in which you can apply 
profile corrections as well as manual lens corrections like perspective 
correction, CA, barrel/pincushion distortion etc.
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Following that is the Effects panel which does Post-crop vignetting 
or add grain to your images
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> Then you have Camera Calibration which I don't use much unless I want 
to use a camera preset. It can also shift colour values and things like that 
but I don't understand it enough to use it.
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> So there you go. You might have a better idea if you try Googling for 
screenshots of Lightroom. Basically what we're trying to get at here is that 
Lightroom is a program with a UI that just makes sense. Everything is in the 
order that you would adjust them, and stuff that are not in any order are 
separated (crop, spot removal, GND etc)
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> > 
brapodam> 2013/5/13 Marie-Noëlle Augendre <[email protected]>
brapodam> > 
brapodam>     
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     
brapodam>     > Philippe, could you elaborate a bit, please?
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     > I (and possibly others in this mailing-list) have no idea what 
Lightroom's order is, as I've never used that software. Remember, I'm a Linux 
woman now. ;-)
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     > Marie-Noëlle
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>     2013/5/13 DELETREE Philippe <[email protected]>
brapodam>     > 
brapodam>         
brapodam>         > 
brapodam>         > 
brapodam>         > 
brapodam>         > 
brapodam>         Philippe DELETREE
brapodam>         > 
brapodam>         > 
brapodam>         
brapodam>         > 
brapodam> 
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