On 17/02/2015 18:39, Francisco Cribari wrote:
> Dear Marc:
>
> [1] May I ask you which base curve you used? I noticed you did not use
> the Fuji X100S base curve that comes with Darktable.
That's because your image is DR-200. I usually change the basecurve a 
bit and raise the exposition +1 to compensate, automatically (I have a 
lua script to do that). This basecurve boosts a bit the low lights. I'm 
not sure it is better, it's just the way I like it, and I tried to make 
it look close to what the camera produces with DR-200.

Maybe I should calibrate the camera in DR-200 to get a correct 
basecurve, one of these days, instead of relying on my handmade basecurve :)

>
> [2] I noticed you used an agressive denoise profiled setting (wavelet +
> color): strength = 3.819.
Yes, I still had a bit of moiré without such an agressive setting on 
your image. But maybe I went a bit too far, I don't know. I did it very 
quickly (I think my result was a bit overexposed, I just removed the 
moiré and got rid of the green artefacts I got by applying defringe). 
The purpose was just to show you that the way to go was probably the 
color/wavelet denoising (the only one I'm applying, most of the time).

>
> [3] This may be off-topic, but what are the advantages of an X-Trans
> sensor for those who shot RAW? All my other gear have Bayer sensors
> (Nikon D800, Nikon D7100, Nikon D7000, Canon G1X etc.) and I have never
> had that much problem with moiré (the Nikon D7100 camera does not have
> an AA filter). I have a couple of friends who have Nikon D800E cameras
> (no AA filter) and they have not encountered problems with moiré either.
> On the other hand, I have been delaing with moiré in several X-Trans RAW
> images in DT. The default demosaic method is now different for X-Trans
> images in DT which signals that moiré is a concern when it comes to such
> images. Are there clear X-Trans advantages to X-Trans sensors that make
> they worth? Are the X-Trans demosaic algorithms mature by now or can we
> expect improvements in the next few years?

On this point, I cannot really comment. I chose my camera (XE2) mostly 
because of the way it works (dials) and because of the XF lenses (good 
quality, aperture ring), and I got very good results straight from the 
camera when I tested it.

That is my first and oly digital camera. I used to do film before, so I 
cannot even compare with Bayer sensors.

Are you or your friends also using darktable with their cameras ? Or are 
they using Lightroom or another tool that may already do the denoising 
by default ? Or maybe, if they use darktable, they already do denoising 
by default ? I guess darktable needs a bit more tweaking than most 
proprietary software (in fact, I don't know, I never used any other tool 
except rawtherapee).

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