Just to repeat :

 I always think this should be easy and then I get educated by Paul:

I thikn each time one thinks about "just moving it down a level" (eg, to strain) there are submitted cases in which two people have submitted assemblies with the same "strain tax id" but actually clearly arent (eg, there is a big insertion of something). The whole thing keeps moving down
a notch.

The right thing here is to assign tracking idenitifers to assembly series independently of the strain assignments, and track assemblies separately (but obviously with relationships)
to strains.

Paul has met most (?all) of the use cases and understands this better than me. I think we should wait for Paul to weigh in here - it's just always a bit more complicated than you
think ;)



On 19 Aug 2010, at 00:10, Andy Jenkinson wrote:

On 18 Aug 2010, at 20:47, Adam Witney wrote:
As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the problem of distinguishing an individual from its taxon is not limited to bacteria. Does the 1000 genomes project use the assembly as a surrogate for isolate/individual?

No it's not unique to bacteria, indeed I notice that Plasmodium vivax is already in the DAS registry, does this not suffer the same problems? i.e which strain are the coordinates referring to?

So far a coordinate system always refers to the species or strain identified by its taxonomy ID. As you say, strains DO have their own NCBI taxonomy ID. It may be that this is not the case for a strain that someone wants to annotate, but I have yet to see an actual example. There is the wider question of how to handle individuals though. I can't comment on how 1000 genomes do this as I've only seen these data expressed as variations annotated upon the reference assembly, but my feeling is that if annotations of an individual were needed then it could/would be done using the assembly paradigm as a surrogate.
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