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On 09-Jan-2014, at 22:10, srinivas kodali <iota.kod...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Suvajit,
> 
> I apologize for the delayed response. I wouldn`t call mysore implementation 
> full yet, there are lot of challenges still in the industry and the 
> acceptability among commuters. But following data standards and open-access 
> to data will help the community and researches solve these challenges 
> effectively.  
> 
> GPS logs were being collected in Bangalore buses in offline mode since 2008, 
> it was a big failure. No one knows what happened to the data. It`s high time 
> all the transport agencies follow data standards in India. Until these 
> standards are followed, it`s mere wastage of public money on experiments with 
> no results. 
> 
> Currently the transport agencies don`t have the rights on transport data, the 
> only reason being the contracting firm holds the rights over data (over 
> public data!!!!).  Atleast this is the current scenario with BEST in Mumbai 
> and MTC in chennai.
> 
> Regards,
> Srinivas
> 
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Suvajit <suvajit.sengu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Srinivas,
>>   You are right. ITS has been the buzzword in the country in Public 
>> Transport sector for couple of years after the 12th Planning commission 
>> suggestions for inclusion of technology to fillip the usage and betterment 
>> of PT across country. 
>> 
>>   But, the adoption on ITS is quite low across country due to the fact that 
>> there are no vendors to implement it the right way. Mysore KSRTC is the only 
>> full ITS implementation in the country. It is still far in terms of 
>> usability and usefulness. Visit mitra.ksrtc.in to see how you can track 
>> buses in realtime. But access to data openly in terms of API or any other 
>> form does not exists.
>> 
>> Lack of confidence and confusion is prevailing more. Across all level in the 
>> domain everyone is looking for a successful model which can be referred to.
>> So, in this situation,access to open data in terms of routes, schedules, bus 
>> stops, GPS logs is a bit too much to ask for. Firstly the data acquisition 
>> has to be in place. No one is talking about data standardization for now.
>> 
>> You have rightly pointed, that push for open access to the ITS data is 
>> needed through policies and followed by tender contracts. 
>> An initiative can be taken now for ITS data standardization and access mode 
>> definition. 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Suvajit
>> 
>> 
>> On Monday, December 23, 2013 5:55:29 PM UTC+5:30, srinivas kodali wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone,
>>> 
>>> This post is regarding policy requirements for open access of transit data 
>>> in India.
>>> 
>>> The Indian Government is spending significant amount of money in 
>>> Intelligent Transportation Systems (ITS) around the country through 
>>> Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JnNURM). Most city road 
>>> transport corporations are already implementing such systems by tracking 
>>> city buses with GPS units. Mysore and Delhi are good implementations for 
>>> these systems apart from pilot implementations across all major cities.
>>> 
>>> But open access of data for public and developers is limited. The 
>>> contractors for these implementations are fooling the transit organizations 
>>> by coming up with clauses withholding raw data with them.
>>> 
>>> The planning commission working group for 12th five year plan on transport 
>>> has recommended an investment of Rs. 8520 crores for ITS and  a total of Rs 
>>> 3,88,308 crores in transport sector by the government ( document attached ).
>>> 
>>> There is a huge requirement for policies and data standards in transit 
>>> space to save public money and to solve traffic problems.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure how i can contribute in terms of policies to get open access 
>>> and need some advice in this regard. I have been working on city real-time 
>>> traffic information as a developer for couple of years.  
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Srinivas
>> 
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