Hi Frank The RIPE NCC mirrors all the RIR's whois databases and provides a Global Resource Service (GRS). This can be easily accessed using the webupdates interface https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query
You select the option "Search resource objects in all available databases" and you will get the correct data from the RIR responsible for this resource. This link gives the data for the resource you are interested in: https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query?bflag=true&dflag=false&rflag=true&searchtext=82.156.114.62&source=GRS cheers denis co-chair DB-WG On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 20:09, Frank Habicht via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > so on my self-hosted MTA I got an email [unsure about good intentions, > thus checking origin] from 82.156.114.62 > > Whois directed to ripe, ripe said it's iana, iana said it's ripe > > [ BGP said ..... 4134 23724 45090 ] > > and ..... > > there's a route object in APNIC: > route: 82.156.0.0/15 > origin: AS45090 > descr: Tencent Cloud Computing (Beijing) Co., Ltd > 309 West Zone, 3F. 49 Zhichun Road. Haidian District. > mnt-by: MAINT-TENCENT-CN > last-modified: 2020-02-24T07:34:42Z > source: APNIC > > and also "inetnum: 82.156.0.0 - 82.157.255.255" (in APNIC) > > So, I tend to believe that I'm on the wrong list here, because my > question turns out to be: > can I trust whois.iana.org ? > > It seems to tell me something different from what APNIC is saying. > > PS: > a prefix containing IP in question is not seen in > https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-recovered-address-space/ipv4-recovered-address-space.xhtml > > > am i right to be confused by the iana answer? > who should get 'encouraged' to change something? > > Thanks, > Frank > > > > [frank@fisi ~]$ whoisiana 82.156.114.62 > [Querying whois.iana.org] > [whois.iana.org] > % IANA WHOIS server > % for more information on IANA, visit http://www.iana.org > % This query returned 1 object > > refer: whois.ripe.net > > inetnum: 82.0.0.0 - 82.255.255.255 > organisation: RIPE NCC > status: ALLOCATED > > whois: whois.ripe.net > > changed: 2002-11 > source: IANA > > [frank@fisi ~]$ whois 82.156.114.62 > [Querying whois.ripe.net] > [whois.ripe.net] > % This is the RIPE Database query service. > % The objects are in RPSL format. > % > % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions. > % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf > > % Note: this output has been filtered. > % To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag. > > % Information related to '82.156.0.0 - 82.157.255.255' > > % No abuse contact registered for 82.156.0.0 - 82.157.255.255 > > inetnum: 82.156.0.0 - 82.157.255.255 > netname: NON-RIPE-NCC-MANAGED-ADDRESS-BLOCK > descr: IPv4 address block not managed by the RIPE NCC > remarks: ------------------------------------------------------ > remarks: > remarks: For registration information, > remarks: you can consult the following sources: > remarks: > remarks: IANA > remarks: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space > remarks: http://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry > remarks: http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-recovered-address-space > remarks: > remarks: AFRINIC (Africa) > remarks: http://www.afrinic.net/ whois.afrinic.net > remarks: > remarks: APNIC (Asia Pacific) > remarks: http://www.apnic.net/ whois.apnic.net > remarks: > remarks: ARIN (Northern America) > remarks: http://www.arin.net/ whois.arin.net > remarks: > remarks: LACNIC (Latin America and the Carribean) > remarks: http://www.lacnic.net/ whois.lacnic.net > remarks: > remarks: ------------------------------------------------------ > country: EU # Country is really world wide > admin-c: IANA1-RIPE > tech-c: IANA1-RIPE > status: ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED > mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT > created: 2019-01-07T10:49:20Z > last-modified: 2019-01-07T10:49:20Z > source: RIPE > > role: Internet Assigned Numbers Authority > address: see http://www.iana.org. > admin-c: IANA1-RIPE > tech-c: IANA1-RIPE > nic-hdl: IANA1-RIPE > remarks: For more information on IANA services > remarks: go to IANA web site at http://www.iana.org. > mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-MNT > created: 1970-01-01T00:00:00Z > last-modified: 2001-09-22T09:31:27Z > source: RIPE # Filtered > > % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.101 > (ANGUS) > > > [frank@fisi ~]$ >