On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, 16:04 Massimo Candela, <mass...@ntt.net> wrote: > > > I'm not against making the purpose of the database more explicit towards > geolocation data. I was just commenting that I don't see why the current > generic purposes are not good enough (especially since we have a bunch > of other attributes, including "geoloc"). >
My argument is that none of that bunch of attributes are explicitly covered by the current purposes in a clear and obvious way. > > On 29/07/2022 11:22, denis walker wrote: > > >> > >> Geofeed wants to correct geolocation problems. The geofeed attribute is > >> exactly a way to "coordinate between network operators" (with, or > >> without, the intermediation of geolocation providers). Geolocation > >> problems impact the availability/performance of content/services. The > >> medium is the network. Geolocation problems are network problems. > > > > No, "geofeed:" is not covered by this purpose. It may be provided by > > network operators but it is not 'used' by them. > > And by who is used? > I think I've been suitably corrected on this point :) Cheers denis Co- chair DB-WG > > It has nothing to do > > with 'network problem resolution > > This is a weird statement. The network has a physical/geographical > component, is not just topology and protocols. > > We have CDNs doing great moneys by offering solutions to this problem. > > > It is, as > > I suggested, data that is used by external services. > > The data is not -used- by external services! > > There are external services, like geolocation providers, aggregating it, > but the data is -used- by other network operators on the other side. > > Even more, some operators started collecting geofeed data directly, > without the intermediation of geolocation providers. A great example of > it is Google. > > The producer and the final user is always a network operator. > > ISP -> content > content -> CDN > content -> transit > ISP -> geoloc provider -> content > etc. > > > Ciao, > Massimo >
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