Hi,

I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent to 
l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.

Cheers,
Alun

On 29 Jul 2022, at 16:12, George Michaelson via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:

> The field is OPTIONAL in the schema. Therefore the maintainer surely
> has "consented" to publication of the URL to geo, if the field exists:
> It isn't pre-filled. The consent question here, is the maintainer and
> their obligations in law, and the role of the RIPE NCC in offering a
> publication service to the maintainer. The downstream consent
> question, is about a CSV format file held elsewhere.
> 
> The field is not PII. The contents of the geofeed file, which is NOT
> in the RIPE NCC service might or might not be, but this is at worst,
> an indirect pointer. The field is about addresses, it contains no
> necessary PII in abstract. if I publish
> http://some.where/~ggm/geofeed.csv then the URL has PII, Is that
> really held to be a problem? Remember, I consented to posting the URL,
> I had to hold the maintainer password, the NCC didn't make me do it.
> 
> The field is operationally helpful to operators of IP address
> services, BGP speakers, network operators. If a delegate of an address
> has a concern, their first port of call is the publisher of the
> geofeed file itself, not the RIPE NCC.
> 
> I don't understand why the T&C have been interpreted to demand
> re-writing to fix something, when this is a field which has obvious
> utility, and low risk, given it is voluntary, and not prefilled or
> mandated, and does not actually represent any PII breach in and of
> itself.
> 
> Truly, I think that a process has driven down a one-way street which
> wasn't on the route plan, and isn't helping forward progress. I think
> the wrong question has been posed, and very probably answered
> correctly, but in the wrong context by legals. I think that if they
> understood context, they might re-consider. I do not see why explicit
> language change process burdens are needed to understand the
> operational utility of this field in the schema.
> 
> -George
> 
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