Hi,

I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent to 
l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.

Cheers,
Alun

On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:53, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent 
> to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alun
> 
> On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:52, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent 
> to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alun
> 
> On 22 Aug 2022, at 07:47, Alun Davies via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m out of office till 22 August. Any RIPE Labs related queries can be sent 
> to l...@ripe.net and one of my colleagues will get back to you.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alun
> 
> On 29 Jul 2022, at 19:04, denis walker via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, 17:29 Randy Bush, <ra...@psg.com> wrote:
> > A lot of this discussion is about interpreting one defined purpose
> > trying to make everything fit in order to 'get around' a legal review.
> 
> another interpretation is that this discussion is trying to bridge a
> rather shocking gap between ncc legal, one db-wg-co-chair, and how the
> operational internet actually works.
> 
> i have no problem with you going off into a db-omphaloskepsis task
> force.  but, in the meantime some of us have an internet to run.
> 
> Well of course as you are all so busy running this Internet you can 
> completely ignore my suggestion to review the purposes and make them clear 
> and simple to understand with definitions and without unnecessary 
> interpretation and then continue to run round in circles arguing over legal 
> reviews. You can even take the DBTF report, ripe-767, as gospel and then you 
> only have 4 purposes to worry about instead of the 6 in the T&C. Perhaps that 
> will make all operators lives easier and you'll get everything operators want 
> from the database. 
> 
> Cheers
> denis 
> Co-chair DB-WG 
> 
> 
> randy
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