Dear all,

First of all, I would like to thank you for the feedback provided. This is
very much appreciated and helps us in deciding the way forward.

Second, I understand the impact that these requirements can have on you and
the inconvenience that they can cause. We need to find the right balance
between security and ease of use, and sometimes this can be a difficult
puzzle to solve.

Now, answering some of the points raised. About OAuth2: we have indeed
considered it and we do plan to support this in the future. It has a number
of useful features as has been mentioned here. However, it was not chosen
now because we want a straightforward replacement for passwords to help our
users migrate more easily. Adding support for OAuth2 flows on the client is
not as straightforward when compared to API keys. Also, we didn’t want to
divide our focus internally by adding support for two different
authentication methods simultaneously.

About the expiry time for the API keys: we chose a maximum of one year
expiry of API keys as a trade-off between security and ease of use. A long
validity period is convenient but increases the risk the API key is
exposed.

In addition, a procedure to rollover the API key is necessary no matter the
validity period. However, the longer the validity, the less frequently this
procedure is performed. This can lead to a risk that staff will be
unfamiliar with doing it, which may result in downtime if the procedure is
not followed correctly. Before any API key expires, the RIPE NCC will
notify the user via the website and by email, giving them time to perform a
rollover. An organisation can also track the expiration themselves as part
of their rollover procedure.

Finally, we will not encourage the sharing of RIPE NCC Access accounts to
share credentials. As already mentioned, it is a better practice for
individuals to manage their own credentials separately.

If you have further questions please let me know.

Kind regards,

Felipe Victolla Silveira
Chief Technology Officer
RIPE NCC

On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 at 00:38, Job Snijders <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear Felipe, RIPE NCC,
>
> Thank you for your efforts to improve account security for LIRS. I
> appreciate the approach to tie API keys to individual RIPE NCC Access
> accounts. I imagine the approach might help improve employee
> off-boarding processes.
>
> I want to comment on one specific aspect that I'm not entirely
> comfortable with:
>
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 02:28:26PM +0200, Felipe Silveira wrote:
> > Secondly, we will implement mandatory API key expiration dates. We
> > will allow the user to choose the expiry date when creating a new key,
> > but expiry cannot be more than one year. We will notify the RIPE NCC
> > Access user in advance by email and on our web interface(s), if any of
> > their API keys are due to expire soon.
>
> I don't see the security advantage here. The "expires after a
> year"-approach means that once a year API users need to copy private key
> material from RIPE portal to internal tooling, get the change approved,
> test the results, etc.
>
> Such events are are both a security sensitive operation and also a
> potential operational problem when the API key isn't replaced in time. I
> fear I see a potential for folks ending up working under time pressure.
> If the expiry happens to coincidence with a change freeze it'll be
> unwelcome.
>
> Introducing an ability which allows users to set expiry dates on API
> keys seems fine, but the maximum expiry of 1 year seems to short. I'd
> prefer it if the expiry moment is left as a decision to the user.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Job
>
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