Hi guys

When you constantly tweak a 30 year old data model there are limits to what
you can achieve. There is an answer, but no one will go there...

Cheers
Denis

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, 15:27 Cynthia Revström via db-wg, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Ed,
>
> I feel like this was mostly settled by NWI-4 in which iirc the conclusion
> was that it wasn't really worth it for the small number of cases in which
> it would be applicable.
>
> I guess that was mostly about the tuple implementation though. I suppose
> adding a "end-user-org" field or something along those lines wouldn't
> really have any negative impact if that solves the problem.
>
> -Cynthia
>
>
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024, 13:32 Edward Shryane, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Clement,
>>
>> > On 6 Dec 2024, at 11:53, Clement Cavadore <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > I am trying to make my first ALLOCATED-ASSIGNED PA block for one of my
>> > end user. It seems that I cannot change the org: line, as it's also the
>> > same inetnum than my own LIR.
>> >
>> > Is there any way to be able to associate another org object to the
>> > whole inetnum, without loosing the link with the parent LIR of that
>> > block ?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for your help !
>>
>> The ALLOCATED-ASSIGNED PA status is meant to combine the "ALLOCATED PA"
>> and "ASSIGNED PA" status values. According to the policy proposal 2023-04
>> (now RIPE-826) :
>>
>> "AGGREGATED-BY-LIR: This address space has been assigned to different
>> parts of the issuing LIR infrastructure or to End Users for use with
>> services provided by the issuing LIR. The purpose and the contact details
>> must be consistent throughout the whole assignment. It cannot be kept when
>> terminating services provided by the LIR."
>>
>> The "org:" reference must remain the LIR. Also, only a single "org:"
>> reference is allowed on all resource object types (so both orgs cannot be
>> registered).
>>
>> To the DB-WG : do we need to accommodate this use case where an end user
>> assignment is the same size as the parent allocation, and register *both*
>> organisations?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ed Shryane
>> RIPE NCC
>>
>>
>>
>>
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