Quest Central for DB2 is smart enough to do the drop/recreate when a table
can't be ALTER'ed.    Now I will say that it generates an IMPORT (which
will also be death by logging...), but it's very easy to take the script
that they generate and change it to a LOAD.   Maybe Quest will add this
"feature" someday.

Thanks.


Philip Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@Lugwash.org on 01/15/2003 03:47:24 PM

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We use Embarcadero DBArtisan in our shop.  There are other tools
available from Quest, CA and BMC (at least).

They all have a common failing : to modify an object (e.g. add a column
to a table which can't be accomplished with an ALTER) they all (AFAIK)
rename the existing table, create a new table with the new structure and
do a "INSERT INTO new SELECT cols FROM old".  On anything other than a
small table this is "death by logging".

I've tried to explain to a number of vendors that what we need is the
well-known (at least to mainframe folks) unload, drop/recreate, reload
mechanism employed by RC/Migrator and (mainframe) Change Manager.  But
I've had no success.  It's obvious that these folks have never had to
work with more that a handful of records in a table !!!

HTH

Phil

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> What tools are available to use on DB2 UDB on AIX & Sun Platform to do
> similar tasks as Spufi and CA Platinum tolls do on mainframe?
> Is there SPUFI for DB2 UDB so the users can run adhoc queries?
> Is there a tool to find out objects belonging to a database?
> I am aware of control center, but looking for something simple so non
> technical users can use it.
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