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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jul 16 16:56:27 +0000 
2008 -------
>Is it normal that I see something like 'knpf' instead of 
>'knopf' or 'dlg' instead of dialog?

In looking at the German translation file, I see that "knpf" is the short
braille for the push button rolename and "Schaltfläche" is the long braille.  By
default, Orca should use the long braille for rolenames, and I just verified it
seems to be doing so.  Did you make any changes in your Orca preferences to use
short braille for rolenames?  It would be in the "Braille" tab of the Orca
preferences GUI.

>Also '> knpf' is coming on the Wizard Button, therefore orca is not be 
>able to show the 'AccessibleName' property content as expected. It use
>something else :-(

We have made the general rule of thumb that if there is accessible text being
presented by an object, Orca presents that text since it is a *screen* reader.
There has been some discussion about giving priority to the accessible name if
it exists (which is what you've done in this case -- thanks!), but we have run
into cases where the accessible name is programmatic garbage.  As such, we've
been better off giving priority to the accessible text instead.

I'll talk about alternative approaches with our UI person. Some options might
include:

1) Using images instead of text for the buttons in question.  With this, Orca
will fallback to the accessible name, which is the main reason accessible name
exists.

2) Making the new strings accessible descriptions or tooltips that the user can
get to via Ctrl+F1 when then button has focus and/or via Orca's "Where Am I"
functionality.


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