Just a quick check:

Your attached notes have the DBI version down as 1.14 - the current CPAN
listing is for 1.18.

I take it from then message that DBI 1.18 works ok? If so, this will
hopefully sort out the problems I've been haveing.

Cheers,
Jon

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 16 July 2001 16:32
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: HPUX build of perl 5.6.1, DBI-1.18, and DBD-Oracle-1.07 is
THUMBS UP!!!


See subject. 

I was forced to rebuild things when patches we applied to our HPUX
development
server.  Which required me to debug my own instructions.  Once I re-found
the
recipe, I rebuilt and tested with the latest modules... In fact, once one
has 
built perl per the instructions... The latest DBI and DBD-Oracle works with 
the standard CPAN module mantra: (no hacking required)

   perl Makefile.PL
   make
   make test
   make install

How can we get this information to the CPAN page that shows what systems
these modules have been tested with?

I have attached (and pasted in line) a new version of the README.hpux for
DBD-Oracle.  This includes some clarification of information I had to learn 
all over again. (Ouch) I have also corrected a number stoopid typo's that 
were easy to see after not looking at this for 6 months.

Best Wishes to all,

Lincoln



=head1 INTRODUCTION

Building a working dynamically linked version of the Oracle DBD driver
on HPUX (11.00) has been a challenge for many.  For months after taking a
new job, where HPUX was the standard server environment, I had only been
able to build a staticly linked version of perl and the DBD-Oracle 
module on HPUX 11.00.

Then Roger Foskett posted instructions for what turned out to be dynamic
build.  Rogers's post got me farther than I had previously gotten.  In fact,

after resolving some undefined symbol errors, I succeeded where for I had 
previously despaired of finding the time to hack out the right 
incantation.  

This F<README.hpux> describes the combined knowledge of a number of
folks who invested many hours discovering a working set of build options.
The instructions in this file, which include building perl from
sources, will produce a working dynamically linked DBD-Oracle that can
be used with mod_perl and Apache.

Both Roger Foskett and I have been using the HP softbench c compiler
normally installed in:

        /opt/softbench/bin/cc.

F<Makefile.PL> has been modified to check for some of the
conditions which, when met, we know will produce a working build.
However, there are many variations of Oracle installations and
features.  Not all of these can be tested by any one of us,
if you discover a way to make a variation which did not previous
work, please submit patches to Makefile.PL to Tim Bunce, and 
patches to this README to Tim Bunce or me.

The instructions herein, have compiled, linked cleanly, and tested 
cleanly using the HP softbench compiler, and Oracle 8.0.5 (32bit), and
Oracle 8.1.6 (64 bit).  Oracle 8.1.5 will probably work as well.

This author now has Oracle 8.1.7 (64 bit) workting with DBI-1.18 and
DBD-Oracle-1.07 and perl 5.6.1.  See appendices for my exact build
configuration.


=head1  Build perl

=head2 HP's default perl (probably no good)

By default, HPUX 11.00 delivers perl 5.00503.  This version of perl will
probably not work.  If you are reading this, you have probably
discovered that something did not work.  To get good version of the
DBD-Oracle driver, we have to start with a perl that as been built with
the correct compiler flags and shared libraries.

=head2 Building the right perl

Generally, in order to get a version of the DBD-Oracle driver that
works on HPUX you need to build your own version of perl from
sources.

These instructions have been used to building a dynamically linked
working DBD-Oracle driver that works with mod_perl and Apache.  These
instructions are based on perl 5.6.0 and 5.6.1.  To this author's knowledge,
they have not be tested on earlier versions of perl.  

It is important to build a B<non> threaded perl, but linked with 
-lcl and -lpthread.   Since Oracle on HP uses libpthread, everything that
dynamically loads it (such as DBD-Oracle) must have been built/linked
with '-lpthread -lcl'.  (When used with Apache, it and any associated
modules these must also be built this way - otherwise all it does is core
dump when loading DBD::Oracle). 

A good link that explains thread local storage problems is
http://my1.itrc.hp.com/cm/QuestionAnswer/1,1150,0x0d0a6d96588ad4118fef009027
9cd0f9!0,00.html


=item Configure

Once you have downloaded and unpacked the perl sources 
(version 5.6.0 assumed here)

    cd Perl-5.6.0/
    ./Configure -Ubincompat5005 #important that there is no malloc polution

You should configure perl to understand largefiles... basically you can
accept the
defaults for all options except:

    Additional libraries: add -lcl -lpthread #FIRST in the list
    ccflags: add '+z' 
    Do you want to install perl as /usr/bin/perl? [y] n
    Perl 5.005 binary compatable? [y] n #causes mod_perl to complain 
                                        #about malloc polution

BTW: When you add -lcl -lpthread to the library list, make sure to place
them B<first>, in the library list, and then that you add all the of
the libraries that were originally prosented as the default list. If you add
-lcl and -lpthread to the end of the list it will not work. I wasted a day 
and a half trying to figure our why I had lost the recipe, before I 
realized that this was the problem. The symptom will be that

   make test 
   
of perl itself will fail to load dynamic libraries.

You can check in the generated 'config.sh' that the options you selected
are correct.  If not, modify config.sh and then re-run ./Configure with
the '-d' option to process the config.sh file.

=item Build & Install 
    
    
    make
    make test
    make install

If you are going to build mod_perl and Apache it as beed suggested that you
modify
Config.pm to the change the HPUX ldflags & ccdlflags in
F</your/install/prefix/lib/5.6.0/PA-RISC2.0/Config.pm> as follows:

    ccdlflags=''
    cccdlflags='+z'
    ldflags=' -L/usr/local/lib'

This is not necessary if you are not using mod_perl and Apache.

=head1 Build and Install DBI

    
    cd DBI-1.14/
    perl Makefile.PL
    make
    make test
    make install

=head1 DBD-Oraclea-1.07 and later

The standard mantra now works out of the box on HPUX:
    
    cd DBD-1.07/ #or more recent version

    export ORACLE_HOME=<path to oracle>
    export ORACLE_SID=<a valid instance>
    export ORACLE_USERID=<validuser/validpasswd>

    perl Makefile.PL
    make 
    make test
    make install # if all went smoothly

If you have trouble, go though the instructions below, for hints
of what might be wrong... and sent me a note, describing your
configuration, and what you did to fix it.

=head1  DBD-Oracle-1.06

You are stronly urged to upgrade. However here is what you may
need to know to get it or work, if you insist on using an earlier
version.

Check the output that above command produces, to verify that 

   -Wl,+n
   -W1,+s

is b<NOT> present. and that 

   -lqsmashr 

B<is> present.  

If the version of Makefile.PL does not include the patch produced at the
time
of this README.hpux, then the above conditions will likely not be met.
You can fix this as follows:

        cat Makefile | sed 's/-Wl,+[sn]//' > Makefile.tmp
        mv Makefile.tmp Makefile

You can add -lqsmashr (assuming $ORACLE_HOME/lib/libqsmashr.sl exists) to
the link 
command, as follows

   cat Makefile | sed 's/\(OTHERLDFLAGS=.*$\)/\1 -lqsmashr/' > Makefile.tmp
        mv Makefile.tmp Makefile

Oracle version 8.1.6 and (maybe 8.1.5) (and probably later) versions, use
the 

   +Wl,+n +Wl,+s 

linker options which causes ld to complain about these as unknown options.
This
is probably because Oracle is linking with the cc command, and we are
linking with
ld.  Oracle also fails to include libqsmashr which defines the Symbol
LhrStrInsert().  

If you are using Oracle 8.0.5, check for, and remove if found,
the linker options:  

   +DA2.0W +DS2.0

Oracle 8.0.5 does not have libqsmashr.sl

We are now ready to make:

    make
    make test #needs valid TWO_TASK & ORACLE_USERID environment vars set)

At this point dld.sl may be reporting undefined symbol errors.

In my case, LhtStrInsert was undefined.  To solve this problem, I had
to looked though the Oracle libraries using nm.  I found the symbol
in 3 separate libraries in $ORACLE_HOME/lib.  I then proceeded to as these
libraries to the OTHERLDFLAGS makefile macro until I got a clean linke.
libqsmashr.sl was what did the trick for me.

The following ksh/bash function will search from the current directory 
down for Symbols in files in lib directories:

To make this search easy I took a code snippet suggested by Roger and turned
it into a little symbol hunting ksh/bash function: 

   #cd to where you want to look
        #find_symbol Symbol ['libnamewildcard' as in '*.sl'] 
   #based on a code fragment suggested by Roger Foskett
        function find_symbol {
           sym=$1; shift;
           libs=$1; shift;
           set +u
           for libdir in $(find . | egrep '/lib$'); do
              cd $libdir;
              for lib in $(ls $libs); do
                 if nm $lib | grep $sym; then
                    echo $(pwd)/$lib : $sym
                 fi
              done
              cd -
           done
           set -u
        }

To use this I cd'd to $ORACLE_HOME and searched for the definitions of the
undefined
symbol as follows:
        
        find_symbol LhtStrInsert '*.sl'
        
Once you have run make test successfully, you can install your build in your
perl tree:

   make install


=head1 Apache and mod_perl

If you are not building this version of perl for Apache you can go on
to build what ever other modules you require.  The following instructions
describe how these modules were built with the perl/DBD-Oracle built above:
The following is what worked for Roger Foskett:


=head2 Apache Web server

    cd apache_1.3.14/
    LDFLAGS_SHLIB_EXPORT="" \
    LDFLAGS="-lm -lpthread -lcl" \
    CC=/usr/bin/cc \
    CFLAGS="-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64" \
    ./configure \
        --prefix=/opt/www/apache \
        --enable-shared=max \
        --disable-rule=EXPAT \
        --enable-module=info \
        --enable-rule=SHARED_CORE

The Expat XML parser is disabled as it conflicts with the Perl
XML-Parser module causing core dumps.  -lcl is needed to ensure that Apache
does
not coredump complaining about thread local storage
    
    make
    make install
    
Once installed, ensure that the generated httpd.conf is properly
configured, change the relvant lines to below (the default user/group 
caused problems on HP (the user 'www' may need to be created)

        User www
        Group other
        port 80
        
=head2 mod_perl

    cd mod_perl-1.24_01/
    perl Makefile.PL \
        NO_HTTPD=1 \
        USE_APXS=1 \
        WITH_APXS=/opt/www/apache/bin/apxs \
        EVERYTHING=1 
    make
    make install

=head2 htdig intranet search engine

    cd htdig-3.1.5/
    CC='cc' CPP='aCC' \
    ./configure \
        --prefix=/opt/www/htdig \
        --with-cgi-bin-dir=/opt/www/htdig/cgi-bin \
        --with-image-dir=/opt/www/htdig/images

=head1 CONTRIBUTORS

The following folks contributed to this README:

   Lincoln A. Baxter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Roger Foskett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Weiguo Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

And probably others unknown to me.

=head1 AUTHOR

   Lincoln A. Baxter
   IT Solutions Delivery, Fleet Credit Card Services
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Office:  215.444.7973

=head1 Appendix A (Perl Configuration Dumps)

The following to sections provide full dumps of perl -V for three
versions of perl that were successfully built and linked on
HPUX 11.00.

=head2 Lincoln Baxter's DBD-Oracle-1.07 Configuration

     Platform:
       osname=hpux, osvers=11.00, archname=PA-RISC2.0
       uname='hp-ux dhdb108 b.11.00 u 9000800 612309363 unlimited-user
license '
       config_args=''
       hint=previous, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
       usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef
usemultiplicity=undef
       useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
       use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
     Compiler:
       cc='cc', ccflags ='-D_HPUX_SOURCE -Aa -I/usr/local/include
-DDEBUGGING -z',
       optimize='-O',
       cppflags='-D_HPUX_SOURCE -Aa -I/usr/local/include -DDEBUGGING -z'
       ccversion='', gccversion='', gccosandvers=''
       intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=4321
       d_longlong=undef, longlongsize=, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=16
       ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t',
lseeksize=4
       alignbytes=8, usemymalloc=y, prototype=define
     Linker and Libraries:
       ld='ld', ldflags =' -Wl,+vnocompatwarnings -L/usr/local/lib'
       libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib /usr/ccs/lib
       libs=-lcl -lpthread -lnsl -lnm -lndbm -ldld -lm -lc -lndir -lcrypt
-lsec
       perllibs=-lcl -lpthread -lnsl -lnm -ldld -lm -lc -lndir -lcrypt -lsec
       libc=, so=sl, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
     Dynamic Linking:
       dlsrc=dl_hpux.xs, dlext=sl, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-Wl,-E
-Wl,-B,deferred '
       cccdlflags='+z', lddlflags='-b +vnocompatwarnings -L/usr/local/lib'

   Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): 
     Compile-time options: DEBUGGING USE_LARGE_FILES
     Built under hpux
     Compiled at Jul 15 2001 16:01:33
     @INC:
       /home/baxtlinc/perl/lib
       /opt/perl/5.6.1-fccs-01/lib/5.6.1/PA-RISC2.0
       /opt/perl/5.6.1-fccs-01/lib/5.6.1
       /opt/perl/5.6.1-fccs-01/lib/site_perl/5.6.1/PA-RISC2.0
       /opt/perl/5.6.1-fccs-01/lib/site_perl/5.6.1
       /opt/perl/5.6.1-fccs-01/lib/site_perl


=head2 Lincoln Baxter's DBD-Oracle-1.06 Configuration 

     Platform:
       osname=hpux, osvers=11.00, archname=PA-RISC2.0
       uname='hp-ux dhdb108 b.11.00 u 9000800 612309363 unlimited-user
license '
       config_args='-Dprefix=/temp_data/baxtlinc/perl -Ubincompat5005'
       hint=previous, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
       usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef
usemultiplicity=undef
       useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define 
       use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usesocks=undef
     Compiler:
       cc='cc', optimize='-O', gccversion=
       cppflags='-D_HPUX_SOURCE -I/usr/local/include +z -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Ae'
       ccflags ='-D_HPUX_SOURCE -I/usr/local/include +z -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -Ae'
       stdchar='unsigned char', d_stdstdio=define, usevfork=false
       intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8
       d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=16
       ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t',
lseeksize=8
       alignbytes=8, usemymalloc=y, prototype=define
     Linker and Libraries:
       ld='ld', ldflags =' -Wl,+vnocompatwarnings'
       libpth=/lib /usr/lib /usr/ccs/lib
       libs=-lnsl -lnm -lndbm -ldld -lm -lc -lndir -lcrypt -lsec -lcl
-lpthread
       libc=, so=sl, useshrplib=true, libperl=libperl.sl
     Dynamic Linking:
       dlsrc=dl_hpux.xs, dlext=sl, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags='-Wl,-E
-Wl,-B,deferred '
       cccdlflags='+z', lddlflags='-b +vnocompatwarnings'
   
   Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): 
     Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES
     Built under hpux
     Compiled at Jan  9 2001 17:36:00
     @INC:
       /temp_data/baxtlinc/perl/lib/5.6.0/PA-RISC2.0
       /temp_data/baxtlinc/perl/lib/5.6.0
       /temp_data/baxtlinc/perl/lib/site_perl/5.6.0/PA-RISC2.0
       /temp_data/baxtlinc/perl/lib/site_perl/5.6.0
       /temp_data/baxtlinc/perl/lib/site_perl
       .


=head2 Roger Foskett's Configuration (works with Apache and mod_perl)

     Platform:
       osname=hpux, osvers=11.00, archname=PA-RISC2.0
       uname='hp-ux titan b.11.00 u 9000800 103901567 unlimited-user license
'
       config_args='-Ubincompat5005'
       hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
       usethreads=undef use5005threads=undef useithreads=undef
usemultiplicity=undef
       useperlio=undef d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define 
       use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usesocks=undef
     Compiler:
       cc='cc', optimize='-O', gccversion=
       cppflags='-D_HPUX_SOURCE -Aa -I/usr/local/include'
       ccflags =' +z -D_HPUX_SOURCE -I/usr/local/include -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE
   -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64  -Ae '
       stdchar='unsigned char', d_stdstdio=define, usevfork=false
       intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8
       d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=16
       ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t',
   lseeksize=8
       alignbytes=8, usemymalloc=y, prototype=define
     Linker and Libraries:
       ld='ld', ldflags =' -L/usr/local/lib'
       libpth=/usr/local/lib /lib /usr/lib /usr/ccs/lib
       libs=-lnsl -lnm -lndbm -lgdbm -ldld -lm -lc -lndir -lcrypt -lsec -lcl
   -lpthread
       libc=/lib/libc.sl, so=sl, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
     Dynamic Linking:
       dlsrc=dl_hpux.xs, dlext=sl, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
       cccdlflags='+z', lddlflags=' -b +vnocompatwarnings -L/usr/local/lib'

   Characteristics of this binary (from libperl): 
     Compile-time options: USE_LARGE_FILES
     Built under hpux
     Compiled at Dec 19 2000 19:17:00
     @INC:
       /opt/www/perl5/lib/5.6.0/PA-RISC2.0
       /opt/www/perl5/lib/5.6.0
       /opt/www/perl5/lib/site_perl/5.6.0/PA-RISC2.0
       /opt/www/perl5/lib/site_perl/5.6.0
       /opt/www/perl5/lib/site_perl
       .


Roger also provides a link to some threads containing some of his
DBD-Oracle and HPUX11 trials... 
L<http://www.geocrawler.com/search/?config=183&words=Roger+Foskett>


=head1 Appendix B (Why Dynamic Linking)

Some one posted to the DBI email list the following question:

   What are the advantages of building a dynamically linked version?
   Being able to use threads? Or something besides that?

The answer is there are too many to count, but here are several big
ones:

=item 1 Much smaller executables 

Only the code referenced gets loaded... this
means faster execution times, and less machine resources (VM) used)

=item 2 Modular addition and updating of modules. 

This is HUGE.  One does not relink B<EVERYTHING, EVERY time> one changes
or updates  a module.

=item 3 It eliminates Dynaloader warning (multiply defined).

This occurs with the static build when perl is run with -w.  I fixed
this by removing -w from my #! lines, converting the the pragam "use
warnings;". However, it was annoying, since all my scripts had -w in the
#! line.

=item 4 Its the default build

Since almost every OS now supports dynamic linking, I believe that 
static linking is NOT getting the same level of vetting it maybe used
to.  Dynamicly linking is what you get by default, so its way better
tested.

=item 5 Its required for Apache and mod_perl.



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