> > But don't you just hate companies that are too coy to even publish their > price list on their web-site? >
Yes. Well I don't know if you want to consider this but OpenOffice Base actually has a database schema wizard with automatic form generator that's kinda cool. Not an object oriented designer as far as I can see but it was quite painless and quick to make a simple prototype. Anyway I tried it on an OOo embedded db but you can make jdbc connections to mysql, etc. too. Anyway it is a bit of a toy compared to what you really want but then again it is free so I mention it. Meanwhile I'm going to check out Toad since DbDesigner didn't present well a lot of tables in my last project. Matt R.
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