On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 00:23 +0000, Aaron Stone wrote: > On Tue, Mar 7, 2006, Geo Carncross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: > > > I have no idea how to attack this for _all_programs_ i.e. the community > > at large, when really, the problems that would affect dbmail DON'T > > affect some other programs. > > Write an article for freshmeat.net or one of the Sysadmin or Linux > magazines. As you mentioned earlier the in thread, there are programs that > behave in all sorts of different ways, with nothing particularly > consistent about them.
I keep saying "I don't know why people use init.d" - I don't mean "There isn't any reason to use init.d" - I mean: "I don't know of any reason to use init.d." For critical services, I can see a very big reason NOT to use init.d- and for daemons in general, I can see that big reason extending to them in some part... I can't recommend init.d for any [critical] services- for exactly this reason, and I don't think system administrators _should_ recommend them. But I'm saying I don't know why people _use_ init.d, and I'm seeking enlightenment on that point. If I knew that I might know why there was such animosity toward using inittab. I've said the only good reason I heard was that it's easier to add entries to init.d than to inittab- and that's a real good reason, except as far as I know, NOBODY adds entries to init.d automatically except unixish system distributors- and those people are in the PERFECT PLACE to provide an automation for safe inittab editing. On the other hand, I say "there is no reason for daemons to ``daemonize themselves''" because daemonizing is a complicated process that is already available to every way that the daemon could start- and that is because the shell is involved in any way that the daemon could start. I'm not adequately prepared to tell people init.d is dead yet, because I don't know if I'm missing anything or not. I'm not completely ready to evangelize this. What I do know is that init.d and init.d-like methods cause a particular problem for long-running services that inittab in fact solves. -- Internet Connection High Quality Web Hosting http://www.internetconnection.net/
