if you want MySQL to be case sensitive:

create table tablename (
name  varchar(120) binary,
...,
);

Curtis


On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Rod K wrote:

> If I may make a suggestion.
> 
> Since MySQL is case-insensitive by default, there shouldn't be a need to
> worry about the case of the text in the field when using MySQL.  In the case
> of Postgres and the concern that an app other than dbmail is inserting a
> user, you can use INSERT/UPDATE triggers to coerce the domain to lower case.
> Since this is enforced at the db level it wouldn't matter where the
> insert/update came from.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
> > Of Ilja Booij
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 9:58 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Dbmail] CAP domain results in "no such user" mail bounce
> >
> >
> > The solution I can think of now is the following:
> >
> > make sure all aliases (or at least their domain part) go into the
> > database in lowercase. Whenever we check a domain alias, we first
> > convert the domain string to lowercase. We can then feed it to a query
> > without using lower().
> >
> > I do see a problem with this though: What if somebody uses another tool
> > to insert aliases into the database? Then a non-lowercase domain can
> > slip in, which will not be found in a case-sensitive search.
> >
> > Ilja
> >
> >
> > Ilja Booij wrote:
> >
> > > Just when I was ready to commit the changes, I found out that MySQL
> > > cannot have an index like:
> > >
> > > INDEX (lower(alias)), because it cannot have expressions in an index..
> > >
> > > So, the whole plan is a no-go. Unless we can come up with some
> > other way
> > > to do the same thing. We could change all strings that we need to check
> > >  case insensitively to lowercase before feeding it them to the
> > query for
> > > instance. Are there any convenient functions functions for this (that
> > > also work with characters other than A-Z?
> > >
> > > Ilja
> > >
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> > >>> Of Ilja Booij
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:30 PM
> > >>> To: [email protected]
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] CAP domain results in "no such user" mail bounce
> > >>>
> > >>> well, after some more reading, I guess it's a bit different:
> > >>>
> > >>> IMAP RFC3501 takes no position on case sensitivity in mailbox
> > names. So,
> > >>> we can support either case sensitive or case insensitive mailbox
> > >>> names. Currently, mailboxes are case sensitive when using PostgreSQL,
> > >>> and case
> > >>> insensitive when using MySQL. This might not be what we want. We would
> > >>> probably like to have case sensitivity to be consistent, whichever
> > >>> database backend we use.
> > >>>
> > >>> any opinions?
> > >>>
> > >>> Ilja
> > >>>
> > >>> John Hansen wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> Ilja,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> If you wan't RFC'ism, you should put code in the software to do the
> > >>>> comparison, not in the SQL, mysql is not case sensitive,. So on
> > >>>> mysql dbmail would not conform to the RFC in this case.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ... John
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > >>>> Behalf Of Ilja Booij
> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 10:05 PM
> > >>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] CAP domain results in "no such user"
> > mail bounce
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In DBMail 1.2.3 the queries were all defined in the backend
> > driver. In
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> DBMail 2.0, the backend driver has become much smaller and simpler,
> > >>>> and most functionality has been moved to db.c, which is in use by all
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> (read:
> > >>>
> > >>>> both) backends.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anyway, your suggestions should work.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> By the way, I don't think we should lowercase the mailboxes, as RFC
> > >>>> 3501 takes no position on case-sensitivity of mailbox names, except
> > >>>> for "INBOX", which should always be case insensitive.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Case insensitivity is limited to aliases (including domain aliases)
> > >>>> and usernames, I guess.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Ilja
> > >>>>
> > >>>> John Hansen wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I'm confused,.... aren't the sql queries defined in each backend
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> driver?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> If not,
> > >>>>> lower(column)=lower("value%"), and
> > >>>>> lower(column) like lower("value%")
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> should do the trick.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ... John
> > >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > >>>>> Behalf Of Ilja Booij
> > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:47 PM
> > >>>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Dbmail] CAP domain results in "no such user"
> > mail bounce
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We can't use ILIKE, as it's not supported by MySQL. It's also not a
> > >>>>> part of SQL92, is it? I'll look for a way around this.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Ilja
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> John Hansen wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Probably a bug from being ported to postgres, as mysql is not case
> > >>>>>> sensitive, but postgresql is.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> As such, all comparisons in where clauses should be cast using
> > >>>>>> lower()
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> on both sides of the comparison sign. Or in the case of LIKE, use
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ILIKE.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> John
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > >>>>>> Behalf Of David
> > >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 9:47 AM
> > >>>>>> To: [email protected]
> > >>>>>> Subject: [Dbmail] CAP domain results in "no such user" mail bounce
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I noticed that when dbmail checks for a delivery point, if
> > the domain
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> name does not match one listed in the aliases table case
> > for case, it
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> will bounced the mail with "so such user".  Has this comparison
> > >>>>>> always
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> been case sensitive?  For example, if [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in the
> > >>>>>> aliases
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> table and then I get a mail address to [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > dbmail rejects
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>>> it.  Actually it will reject anything not spelled exactly as
> > >>>>>> "example.com".  This is the error message generated.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> dbmail/smtp[31935]: bounce.c,bounce: sending 'no such user' bounce
> > >>>>>> for
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> destination [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Is this a postfix problem, PostgreSQL problem, or a dbmail problem?
> > >>>>>>
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> > >>>>>
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