Hi all, Lua and Wikidata are two rather different issues, only loosely related, so I renamed the subject.
Dimitris already started work on a Wikidata extractor and added a feature request here: https://github.com/dbpedia/extraction-framework/issues/30 I started a wiki page: https://github.com/dbpedia/extraction-framework/wiki/Wikidata Cheers, JC On 5 April 2013 21:27, Andrea Di Menna <ninn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Dimitris, > > I am not completely getting your point. > > How would you handle the following example? (supposing the following will be > possible with Wikipedia/Wikidata) > > Suppose you have > > {{Infobox:Test > | name = {{#property:p45}} > }} > > and a mapping > > {{PropertyMapping | templateProperty = name | ontologyProperty = foaf:name}} > > what would happen when running the MappingExtractor? > Which RDF triples would be generated? > > Cheers > Andrea > > > 2013/4/5 Dimitris Kontokostas <jimk...@gmail.com> >> >> Hi, >> >> For me there is no reason to complicate the DBpedia framework by resolving >> Wikidata data / templates. >> What we could do is (try to) provide a semantic mirror of Wikidata in i.e. >> data.dbpedia.org. We should simplify it by mapping the data to the DBpedia >> ontology and then use it like any other language edition we have (e.g. >> nl.dbpedia.org). >> >> In dbpedia.org we already aggregate data from other language editions. For >> now it is mostly labels & abstracts but we can also fuse Wikidata data. This >> way, whatever is missing from the Wikipedia dumps will be filled in the end >> by the Wikidata dumps >> >> Best, >> Dimitris >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Julien Plu >> <julien....@redaction-developpez.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ok, thanks for the precision :-) It's perfect, now just waiting when the >>> dump of these data will be available. >>> >>> Best. >>> >>> Julien Plu. >>> >>> >>> 2013/4/5 Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt <j...@sahnwaldt.de> >>>> >>>> On 5 April 2013 19:59, Julien Plu <julien....@redaction-developpez.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > @Anja : Have you a post from a blog or something like that which >>>> > speaking >>>> > about RDF dump of wikidata ? >>>> >>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Development/RDF >>>> >>>> @Anja: do you know when RDF dumps are planned to be available? >>>> >>>> > The french wikidata will also provide their >>>> > data in RDF ? >>>> >>>> There is only one Wikidata - neither English nor French nor any other >>>> language. It's just data. There are labels in different languages, but >>>> the data itself is language-agnostic. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > This news interest me very highly. >>>> > >>>> > Best >>>> > >>>> > Julien Plu. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > 2013/4/5 Tom Morris <tfmor...@gmail.com> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Jona Christopher Sahnwaldt >>>> >> <j...@sahnwaldt.de> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> thanks for the heads-up! >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On 5 April 2013 10:44, Julien Plu >>>> >>> <julien....@redaction-developpez.com> >>>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>> > Hi, >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > I saw few days ago that MediaWiki since one month allow to create >>>> >>> > infoboxes >>>> >>> > (or part of them) with Lua scripting language. >>>> >>> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Lua_scripting >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > So my question is, if every data in the wikipedia infoboxes are in >>>> >>> > Lua >>>> >>> > scripts, DBPedia will still be able to retrieve all the data as >>>> >>> > usual ? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> I'm not 100% sure, and we should look into this, but I think that >>>> >>> Lua >>>> >>> is only used in template definitions, not in template calls or other >>>> >>> places in content pages. DBpedia does not parse template >>>> >>> definitions, >>>> >>> only content pages. The content pages probably will only change in >>>> >>> minor ways, if at all. For example, {{Foo}} might change to >>>> >>> {{#invoke:Foo}}. But that's just my preliminary understanding after >>>> >>> looking through a few tuorial pages. >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> As far as I can see, the template calls are unchanged for all the >>>> >> templates which makes sense when you consider that some of the >>>> >> templates >>>> >> that they've upgraded to use Lua like Template:Coord are used on >>>> >> almost a >>>> >> million pages. >>>> >> >>>> >> Here are the ones which have been updated so far: >>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lua-based_templates >>>> >> Performance improvement looks impressive: >>>> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dragons_flight/Lua_performance >>>> >> >>>> >> Tom >>>> > >>>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Minimize network downtime and maximize team effectiveness. >>> Reduce network management and security costs.Learn how to hire >>> the most talented Cisco Certified professionals. 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