On 2/6/15 2:12 PM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote:
Kingsley,

with all due respect, what are you talking about? What visualization?
Did you look at the example?

Yes, of course I looked at the example. It's an HTML page. Just like the DBpedia green pages are HTML pages.

HTML pages are ultimately visualization of data encoded using HTML (Hypertext Markup Language).


It is a generic Linked Data browser interface, which also can be used
to publish Linked Data datasets such as DBPedia. All it uses to render
the page is the RDF result it retrieves from the source.

It is a Document endowed with controls (courtesy of HTML). The controls in question enable a user lookup HTTP URIs that identity the subject, predicates, and objects of relations represented using RDF statements. That's it!



As to "why?" -- because it is much more user-friendly? Is that not a
goal for DBPedia?

And as I said "user-friendly" has nothing to do with it. Even more so when you are making an utterly subjective qualification -- in a realm that's supposed to be underpinned by objectivity, courtesy of entity relation semantics comprehension.


Let me hear about non-obvious capabilities that are required, and see
if we can meet them. We're offering to contribute open-source code.

You are not the only one that would like to offer an alternative default to the pages that visualize the entity descriptions in DBpedia's Linked Open Data Space. Hence my suggestion of an open competition, which would actually do this project a world of good, ditto the Linked Open Data community in general.

The community can vote on their preferred default visualization, how about that? Totally open and objective :)


Kingsley


Martynas

On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Kingsley  Idehen <kide...@openlinksw.com> wrote:
On 2/6/15 11:46 AM, Martynas Jusevičius wrote:
Hey all,

as some of you might know, our company has been developing Graphity -
an open-source Linked Data client, which provides browser
functionality and more.

Here's an instance of it running on Linked Data Hub, rendering DBPedia
resource of Tim Berners-Lee:

http://linkeddatahub.com/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fdbpedia.org%2Fresource%2FTim_Berners-Lee

You can compare it with the current interface:
http://dbpedia.org/page/Tim_Berners-Lee

I think it is safe to say that user-friendliness is on another level.

Also check out the SPARQL endpoint which contains an interactive query
editor.

I would like the DBPedia community to consider making Graphity the
default Linked Data interface.

Why? You are adding a visualization to the mix. The tool in question is
already listed on the applications collection[1] page currently maintained
for the project.

Please remember, Linked Open Data is all about loosely-coupling the
following:

1. Object (Entity) Identity
2. Object (Entity) Description Location -- basically the Name->Address
indirection that's crucial to any Identity based system
3. Notation used to construct Object (Entity) Descriptions
4. Wire-Protocol used to serialize Object (Entity) Descriptionsover a
network
5. Data Access Tools for interrogating, manipulating, and visualizing Object
(Entity) Descriptions.

DBpedia publishes 5-Star Linked Open Data. You, like many others, have built
a nice data visualization tool. Great job! But that isn't a mutually
exclusive endeavor relative to DBpedia (the data space), it's a nice
addition to the mix :)

Do we need an upgrade of the default green pages? Of course! Getting that
rolled out is something that's been looping for a while because the
capabilities required are a little more challenging than is obvious.

Maybe, at some point, we could have a competition for the community to vote
on re., new default interface. The beauty of said competition is that
outlining the expectations provides a nice route to actually discussing
Linked Open Data visualization matters, clearly etc..


After that, we could take things much
further: enable editing mode, add custom layout modes etc.

Please let me know what you think. The source code can be found here:
https://github.com/Graphity/linked-data-hub
https://github.com/Graphity/graphity-client


Best regards,

Martynas
graphityhq.com


Links:

[1] http://wiki.dbpedia.org/Applications -- DBpedia Applications .

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