This is a very ambitious, but commendable, goal. To map all data on the web to
the DBpedia ontology is a huge undertaking that will take many years of effort.
However, if it can be accomplished the potential payoff is also huge and could
result in the realization of a true Semantic Web. Just as with any very large
and complex software development effort, there needs to be a structured
approach to achieving the desired results. That structured approach probably
involves a clear requirements analysis and resulting requirements
documentation. It also requires a design document and an implementation
document, as well as risk assessment and risk mitigation. While there is no
bigger believer in the "build a little, test a little" rapid prototyping
approach to development, I don't think that is appropriate for a project of
this size and complexity. Also, the size and complexity also suggest the final
product will likely be beyond the scope of any individual to fully comprehend
the overall ontological structure. Therefore, a reasonable approach might be to
break the effort into smaller, comprehensible segments. Since this is a large
ontology development effort, segmenting the ontology into domains of interest
and creating working groups to focus on each domain might be a workable
approach. There would also need to be a working group that focus on the top
levels of the ontology and monitors the domain working groups to ensure overall
compatibility and reduce the likelihood of duplicate or overlapping concepts in
the upper levels of the ontology and treats universal concepts such as space
and time consistently. There also needs to be a clear, and hopefully simple,
approach to mapping data on the web to the DBpedia ontology that will
accommodate both large data developers and web site developers. It would be
wonderful to see the worldwide web community get behind such an initiative and
make rapid progress in realizing this commendable goal. However, just as
special interests defeated the goal of having a universal software development
approach (Ada), I fear the same sorts of special interests will likely result
in a continuation of the current myriad development efforts. I understand the
"one size doesn't fit all" arguments, but I also think "one size could fit a
whole lot" could be the case here.
Respectfully,
John Flynn
http://semanticsimulations.com
From: Sebastian Hellmann [mailto:hellm...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de]
Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:12 AM
To: Tom Morris; Dimitris Kontokostas
Cc: Wikidata Discussion List; dbpedia-ontology;
dbpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net; DBpedia-Developers
Subject: Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] [Dbpedia-developers] DBpedia-based RDF dumps
for Wikidata
Dear Tom,
let me try to answer this question in a more general way. In the future, we
honestly consider to map all data on the web to the DBpedia ontology (extending
it where it makes sense). We hope that this will enable you to query many data
sets on the Web using the same queries.
As a convenience measure, we will get a huge download server that provides all
data from a single point in consistent formats and consistent metadata,
classified by the DBpedia Ontology. Wikidata is just one example, there is
also commons, Wiktionary (hopefully via DBnary), data from companies, DBpedia
members and EU projects.
all the best,
Sebastian
On 11.03.2015 06:11, Tom Morris wrote:
Dimitris, Soren, and DBpedia team,
That sounds like an interesting project, but I got lost between the statement
of intent, below, and the practical consequences:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Dimitris Kontokostas
<kontokos...@informatik.uni-leipzig.de> wrote:
we made some different design choices and map wikidata data directly into the
DBpedia ontology.
What, from your point of view, is the practical consequence of these different
design choices? How do the end results manifest themselves to the consumers?
Tom
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