Hi all,

The list got left off of Michel's initial response to my email, and we
only noticed once several further replies had been exchanged.

See the reconstructed exchange below.
TL;DR: Should prior versions of deleted objects remain query-able?

Cheers,

Ben

----- Forwarded message from Ben Maddison <[email protected]> -----

> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2020 20:48:32 +0200
> From: Ben Maddison <[email protected]>
> To: Michel ODOU <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [DBWG] --list-versions query on deleted resources?
> 
> Hi Michel,
> 
> On 12/03, Michel ODOU wrote:
> > Hi Ben,
> > 
> > On 03/12/2020 18:53, Ben Maddison wrote:
> > > Hi Michel,
> > > 
> > > On 12/03, Michel ODOU wrote:
> > > > Hi Ben,
> > > > 
> > > > --list-versions does not show the versions of a deleted object.
> > > > If the object has been deleted several times, then you will see the
> > > > versions since the last deletion.
> > > > 
> > > This seems undesirable. Why not provide the ability to see the versions
> > > that existed prior to the eventual deletion?
> > > Was this a conscious design decision, or a limitation of the db code?
> > > 
> > > > Example, versions of object X:
> > > > 
> > > > #1: created
> > > > #2: updated
> > > > #3: updated
> > > > #4: deleted
> > > > #5: created
> > > > #6: updated
> > > > 
> > > > Then --list-versions will display versions #5 and #6.
> > > > 
> > > > In case there is an additional deletion (#7), then --list-version will
> > > > simply inform you the last time the object was deleted.
> > > > 
> > > > And of course, it does not work on role and person objects.
> > > > 
> > This decision was taken by RIPE - our current WHOIS derives from their
> > 2013 code base, even if it has strongly diverged since. Maybe there were
> > some privacy concerns (at least, I know that it is why you don't see the
> > history for person and role objects). On our side, we have never changed
> > this, simply because no one in the community ever complained about the
> > current behavior.
> > 
> Ack, makes sense.
> 
> > If we had to change this, it would be easy. There is no specific
> > limitation in the WHOIS code, it is possible to get all the versions
> > that existed for any object, even with deletions in the middle. It is
> > just a matter a getting a consensus around this.
> > 
> I would personally be in favor of this.
> 
> Everyone else? Thoughts?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Ben

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