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On 25/07/2021 07:55, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> I honestly was not aware of the fact that people had to pay money to
> get routes into the RADB data base until I saw this message that I am
> responding to (from Noah).  This puts a whole different light on the
> problem!
> 
> RADB is operated by Merit, Inc. which is located in the State of Michigan,
> U.S.A.  All I knew... up until now... was that it is a "non profit" entity:
> 
>     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merit_Network
> 
> Based on that one small scrap of information, I had incorrectly assumed
> that it was 100% free for people to add routes to the RADB.  But apparently
> not so!  Far from it!  I see now that the company charges a HEFTY annual
> membership fee to all those who want to put route objects in their data
> base:
> 
>    For-Profit Organization    $595.00 USD
>    Non-Profit Organization    $425.00 USD
> 
> That is a LONG way from free!
> 
> So, this certainly raises a number of (awkward?) questions, such as
> 
>     (*)  Does RADB -remove- routes from their data base when someone
>          stops paying the annual membership fee?  (The evidence suggests
>          that they fail to do such cleanups.)

I strongly believe YES, route objects get removed.


>     (*)  Will RADB allow paying members to add routes to bogon IP space,
>          and/or to bogon AS numbers?

Oh yes!
also space that is not theirs.

> Now that I know they charge BIG money for allowing people to add routes to
> their RADB data base, I must say that I do view their past unhelpfulness
> in a somewhat different light.

sure it would be different if you paid something.

> P.S.  Do dues-paying resource members of AFRINIC have to pay anything
> extra to get routes added to the AFRINIC IRR? 

no.
btw: also resource members who don't pay (like IXPs) get the IRR
functions for free.

> Or is that free as part
> of the basic membership services?

It is.

Frank

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