Your site is a great resource a d much appreciated. I would love to help in any way that I can.
----- Original Message ----- From: kevin To: 'Todd Sanders' ; 'Charlie Miller' ; 'Harry Angus' ; deadlists@nemesis.CS.Berkeley.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: RE: updating Deadlists from the discussion DeadLists is a community project - therefore it is only as good as its contributors' interest in the community. For about a year now, I have taken ownership of making updates validated or posted by caretakers. Prior to that there was self-service update tool that was intended to make the site as hands-off as possible. On the one hand, it followed in the spirit of the community, but on the other hand no one is keeping after the folks who agreed to use it - and reality is that no one should do that. So, I shut the tool off with the expectation that when the caretaker wanted to make a correction, they would have to ask me. That way I could track the emails to the list and see if they were being followed up on. Throughout this time, I've made all updates requested by caretakers and occasionally stepped in when time allowed to make them without waiting. All of this is intended to back up the point that caretakers are not the only group responsible for the update process. As a participant with ongoing interest in this community, it should be expected that if you submit something, it is your responsibility to follow-up on it. Sending an email is not enough. To contribute to the DeadLists: 1. Read the data spec or reference the format of how each date is listed, including notations. 2. If you see something that has not been updated, send an email to the list and the caretaker to inquire 3. If you've submitted something not updated, send a follow-up email to the list and the caretaker to inquire. 4. If you want to submit something, use the format to submit to the list and caretaker. This may include something you've seen submitted by someone else, but would like to see updated - just resubmit it yourself. Repeated inquiries catch my attention and that's where I will step in to make whatever changes are necessary. There is no role here to police the content or process. The site is and should be a reflection of the efforts of the community, not any one individual - if there is no interest except mine and a couple others, the site has no purpose. Thanks for your support From: owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu [mailto:owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Todd Sanders Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 8:40 AM To: 'Charlie Miller'; 'Harry Angus'; deadlists@nemesis.CS.Berkeley.EDU Subject: RE: updating Deadlists from the discussion I can take on more years in addition '74 if need be. Todd From: owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu [mailto:owner-deadli...@nemesis.cs.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Charlie Miller Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 6:41 AM To: Harry Angus; deadlists@nemesis.CS.Berkeley.EDU Subject: Re: updating Deadlists from the discussion It is sad to say, deadlists is very much outdated. There are numerous setlists that need to be updated. I have sent in corrections but the caretakers haven't done anything about them. Maybe we need some new caretakers?? ----- Original Message ----- From: Harry Angus To: deadlists@nemesis.CS.Berkeley.EDU Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:35 PM Subject: updating Deadlists from the discussion Hi, I am not sure who is in charge of making updates and adding images but it seems like it's not happening...Can I assist whoever is in need of help with this? I am a researcher for thejerrysite and add info to that site almost daily...let me know as I'd like to help out! Thanks! Harry Angus