Dear Isabel,

I think you are speaking of the Stokes not NS, isn't it?

Anyway, I believe that your mesh is too fine for an iterative solver 
without a multigrid preconditioner.

Try with less than 1000 DoF, if it works, you need a multigrid...

Cheers

Thomas


On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Isabel Gil wrote:

> Dear  DealII's users,
> 
> Thanks Martin, Thomas, Ruhollah and Wolgang for your replies.
> 
> My system comes from Navier-Stokes equation.
> I use Q2 for velocity and Q1 for pressure, so LBB is satisfied.
> 
> The geometry and boundary conditions are the following ones:
>  _________________2____________
>  | |
> 1|                                               |
>  |____2____                                |
>                 | |
>             2  |                                |3
>  _____2___|                                |
>  | |
> 1|                                               |
>  |________________2____________|
> 
> Where in 1 we put Dirichlet boundary condition, that is a parabolic flow in
> component U and zero in componet V, in 2 we put (U,V)=(0,0) and in 3 we put a
> Neumann condition that is
> (p*n-viscosity(grad(u)*n)) =0, where n is the normal component on boundary 3.
> 
> If I use GMRES+Precondition_Identity (that if UMFPACK solver works, this
> should work too) in the first iteration I have:
> 
> DEAL:GMRES::Starting value 0.00852830
> DEAL:GMRES::Failure step 100000 value 1.06883e-05
> terminate called after throwing an instance of
> 'dealii::SolverControl::NoConvergence'
>  what():  Iterative method reported convergence failure in step 100000 with
> residual 1.06883e-05
> 
> And as I said in my previous email, using Vanka and ILU precondition, the
> behaviour is even worse.
> 
> Again, thanks in advance.
> Best
> Isa
> 
> 
> 
> Martin Kronbichler wrote:
> > Dear Isabel,
> >
> >   
> > > I am trying to solve a matricial system Ax=b, where
> > > A=|A11 A12|
> > > |A21     0|
> > >
> > > with four different solvers:
> > >
> > > - SparseDirectUMFPACK
> > > - GMRES + Precondition_Identity() as preconditioner
> > > - GMRES + SparseILU<double> ilu as preconditioner
> > > - GMRES + Vanka preconditioner as preconditioner
> > >
> > > The only one that seems to get good results is the first one, i.e., the
> > > direct one. I decided to use the other ones because in the future this
> > > system will have a huge quantity of nodes, so direct solver won't be
> > > feasible.
> > >
> > > GMRES with SparseILU as preconditioner has a Starting Value of 946,719
> > > GMRES with Vanka as preconditioner has a Staring Value of 2.99566E+12
> > > In those cases, the solver breaks down in the first iteration.
> > >
> > > GMRES with Precondition_Identity as preconditioner has a Starting Value of
> > > 0.0129254 (i.e. the same as doing "by hand", norm L2 of(b-Ax)). In this
> > > case, the solver solves the first iteration but it breaks down just in the
> > > second one.
> > >     
> >
> > Since the direct solver does not break down, the matrix system seems to
> > be solvable (i.e., there seems to be one unique solution, otherwise
> > UMFPACK would complain/fail). In such a case, GMRES with
> > Precondition_Identity() should actually work fine as well (even though
> > it might need lots of iterations). The only reason that makes GMRES fail
> > is when some matrix inner product y^T A x gets zero, which means that
> > the matrix is actually not solvable (but singular).
> >
> > Are you sure that your matrix is non-singular (maybe you were just lucky
> > to get UMFPACK running)? Where does the matrix come from (I guess some
> > Stokes or Navier-Stokes system) and what were the boundary conditions?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Martin
> >
> >   
> 
> 

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