Wolfgang,

Thanks for the question.  I'm trying to create a formulation which retains
all three components of displacement, but with no dependence on the \phi
coordinate.  It is not necessarily true that the u_\phi component will be
constant, it just has to be free of dependence on \phi.

I have heard in a few places that the case where u_\phi is assumed to be
constant (and often zero) is called "torsionless axi-symmetry", and the one
that I'm interested in, where u_\phi can depend on r,z, called "generalized
axi-symmetry".   A test case for the latter, I think, would be a
thick-walled cylinder where one wall is fixed, and the other is displaced
uniformly in the \phi direction.  That should produce a u_\phi which is
non-constant but free of dependence on \phi, for an isotropic material.

So, I agree with your statement about the form of the gradient if the u_\phi
solution is constant, but I think that for my case I need to keep the terms
I'm having a problem with.

Thanks,

Jon



On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Wolfgang Bangerth
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> Jon,
>
> > I'm working on an axi-symmetric formulation of elasticity in cylindrical
> > coordinates, and I'm a bit stuck when it comes to computing the
> gradients.
> > The problem is that I need to compute gradients of the shape functions
> that
> > contain values of shape functions as well.
> >
> > For example, for a vector-valued shape function v^i, with components
> > [v^i_r, v^i_\phi, v^i_z],
>
> I'm a little confused. You say that you are using an axi-symmetric
> formulation, but then you typically only have the r- and z-components of
> the
> solution, because the solution is constant in phi direction, no? In that
> case, the actual 3d gradient in x-y-z-coordinates at a position (r,z) of
> the
> x-z-plane would be
>  [\partial_r v^i, 0, \partial_z v^i]
>
> Or are you instead trying to work in cylindrical coordinates without the
> assumption of symmetry?
>
> W.
>
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